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A Long Ass Bangin' Buds

2020.09.27 18:35 nothingfunnytooffer A Long Ass Bangin' Buds

Static starts. THE MYSTERIOUS MAN is alone in a control room that looks like a sci-fi server room from the 1980s. He speaks into a similarly teched-out microphone.
MYSTERIOUS MAN: The following podcast is not real. If it were real, it would most certainly not be dictated by a script written by a fan. Enjoy the show.
Static interrupts the feed and changes the view. MUNDEL THE GRUNDEL starts the musical intro, some bar noises heard in the background. Patrons move around the Vermillion Minotaur as the shot pans to that very table where the human from another world, ARNIE, the shapeshifter, CHUNT, and USIDORE, the Blue Wizard, drink and do their podcast.
ARNIE: Hello from the Magic Tavern!
Mundel trills
A(CONT): A weekly podcast from the magical land of Foon. I’m your host, Arnie Niekamp. If you never listened to the podcast before, don’t worry, this one is inconsequential. About… insert time frame here, I fell through a dimensional portal behind a Burger King, in Chicago, into the magical, fantastical land of Foon. Luckily, I’m still getting a slight Wi-fi signal from the Burger King, through the dimensional rift and I use that to upload a podcast I record every week here in the tavern, the Vermillion Minotaur, in the town of Hogsface, in the land of Foon! And I’m-
USIDORE: What do you mean “inconsequential”?
A:(stammers) I-I’m-just saying-
U: Everything we do is VERY CONSEQUENTIAL!!!
A:(sighs) And I’m joined, as always, by my co-host, my bud, and my boon companion-You know, I haven’t called you guys my boon companions in a while-Usidore the Wizard.
U: I AM USIDORE! Wizard of the 12th Realm of Ephysiyies, Master of Light and Shadow, Manipulator of Magical Delights, Devourer of Chaos-
A: Spaghetti
U:-CHAMPION OF THE GREAT HALLS OF TERR'AKKAS! The elves know me as Fi’ang Yalok.-
A: Feline Zelig
U: The dwarfs know me as Zoenen Hoogstandjes-
A: Hooba-
U: Shut up. And I am also known in the Northeast as Gaismunēnas Meista-
A: Glass anus.
U:(glares) And there may be other secret names that you do not know about. Aye, names so powerfully, so profound and unimaginable, that if you even utter the words underneath your breath, if that wind passes your lips, it would cause a fervor of murderous emotions within the female populations, destroying all the homes and villages within the surrounding area until it concludes in an orgasmic raging scream. Usually lasting 5-7 days with the last days being much lighter.
A: Wh-what?!?
U: Oh yes, it has happened once before in the tourist town of Cancon. A man found out my name and etched the whole endeavor.
A: That sounds really creepy.
U: It was more dangerous than creepy. It’s not the best to be that close when those Girls Go Wild.
A: I just hope their covering themselves up with a Red Tube, at minimum.
U: Impossible! A Red Tube would be much too small. Also, why would you put these women in a Red Tube? Seems rather impractical to have a singular item to protect them from the elements. But I am not one to judge. Unlike you, Arnold. Hashtag FREE THE NIPPLE!
CHUNT: Hey, are we talking about emails already? I got a new Bangin’ Buds story a fan sent!
A:-oh, and I’m also joined by my other co-host, Chunt, the talking badger!
C: Awww yeah baybee!
A: How are you doing, buddy?
C: Doing pretty good. I met up with a friend, Mrs. Puff. She is a puffer fish.
A: Mrs. Puff?
C: Yup, Mrs. Puff.
U: Oh, how is the Mrs.?
A: Wait, not with Mr. Puff too?
C: No, she’s a widower.
U: Yes, don’t be insensitive, Arnold.
C: So, I was hangout with Mrs. Puff. She’s a sweet little lady with a little blue hat that teaches a carting school. But she’s been a little lonely lately. Coming at me pretty hard. But as a gentle-badger, I kept my boundaries and told her I didn’t want to take advantage of her grief.
A: That’s nice, I guess.
C: Yeah, but she got really mad and made a face about it when I left. Really glad I didn’t stay. Could you imagine? Seeing me as a Huffled Puff?
A: Wh-Was the story really trying to lead up to that?
C: What do you mean? I just don’t see myself as a Huffeld Puff. Although, I think I would probably look adorable in a black and yellow tie.
U: I hear Huffeld Puffs are great finders.
A: Well as long as you don’t end up like Cedric Digory.
U & C: Who?
A: It-uh-it’s a guy on Earth that turned into a vampire. And then made a series of subpar movies. Maybe one good one snuck in.
C: I didn’t know they had vampires on Earth. He should come to Chunt for Red October and we can do an interview with him about what it likes to be a vampire on Earth. You know, make him feel at home.
A: Well I hear he hates it.
U: I would too if I were him, but then I Remember Me.
C: It would suck to be The Devil All the Time.
A: I don’t think I’m supposed to know that reference.
C: What reference? He’s your Earth person.
U:(Whispers to Chunt) I always wonder if Arnold has even a small Light in that House, if you know what I mean.
A: It’s Arnie.
U: Now, correct me if I was wrong, I thought you have told us that you world was devoid of magic and magical beings.
A: There aren’t any.
C: What about those Gatherings on Earth?
A: There’s nothing actually magical about it. It’s more fun at first, then gets really sad when you spend all your money and potential on the cards and forces you to move into your mother’s basement.
U: Ah, so there are magic cards in your world.
A: I could’ve sworn I told you about this before.
U: Arnie, you tell us a lot of stories we only halfheartedly listen too.
C: Sometimes zero-heartedly.
A: Aww…
C: Hey Arnie?
A: What?
C: You’re my best friend.
A: You’re MY best friend.
Usidore coughs.
A(CONT): Oh! And Usidore?(Usidore perks up.) I like you a lot.
U:(smug) Oh, why thank you!
A:(pauses) So you’re not gonnna-know what, nevermind. Hey guys, I actually don’t have any guests invited to the podcast today. I thought we would have a classic Boys’ Night!
C: Ooooooo
U: Wonderful! It has been so long since we had a Boys’ Night here, in the Vermillion Minotaur. Let us start at once!
C: Mmmmm Boys’ Night!
A: Boys’ Night!
U: BOYS NIGHT!
C: Bing Bong!
Arnie, Chunt, and Usidore start to mumble to themselves about what to do during Boys Night. A HEAD GHOST starts approaching the table.
HEAD GHOST(OS): Hello?
C: Hey-Hey guys! Check it out.
A: Is that a ghost?
C: It is! It’s a gh-gh-gh-ghost!
A: Jinkies
HG: Yeah, nice read, Velma. Just kidding, I stole that from Archer. You’re Arnie Niekamp, right?
A: Uh, yeah. Do you know me?
HG: Of Course. I know all of you. I’m actually a new fan of Hello from the Magic Tavern.
Mundel trills
HG(CONT) : Awww. Thanks, Mundel; you’re a sweetheart.
Mundel plays vibraslap.
A: Oh, we already did a fan episode, sorry.
CHEST TRÜNKBORN pops up from underneath.
CHEST: Maybe even two if you count when the Cockticklers came to research their play.
HG: Are you even available to talk today?
CHEST: Nope.
Chest pops back down under the table.
A: Hey, we don’t normally have guest asking to be on the show-
HG: I didn’t ask.
A: Okay then. Goodbye.
HG: NO NO NO! Sorry, I have really important questions for you guys. I wanna be on.(pouts) Please.
A: Well, sure. Welcome to the podcast!
U: Yes, thank you for ruining Boys’ Night.
C:(somberly) Aww Boys’ Night…
HG: Oh, Chu chu…sorry.
A: So, um, ghost, come up to the mic and tell us a little more about yourself.
HG:(exhales) Okay! Well, my name is Metabeth-
A: Metabeth?
METABETH: Yeah, Metabeth.
U: Sounds about right.
A: Don’t you mean “Meredith”?
C: Arnie, are you man-plaining her own name? She clearly said Metabeth.
A: Well I didn’t mean it like that! It’s doesn’t sound like a name-I mean doesn’t sounds like a name I expected to hear.
M: As opposed to Arnie Niekamp? Doesn’t even have the word “Knee” in it.
U: Ha HA! Good one! Arnold, you might as well be walking on stubs since you have no knees.
M: No knees? No toes?
C: But he does own elbows.
M: So he can’t be nubs.
C: It helps that he’s not totally rad.
M: It would be fun to call him nubs.
A: Now who’s being insensitive?
M: Hey, that song is pretty body positive. And apparently based on a real person.
A: Really?
M: According to Reddit and Wikipedia, yeah. But who believes all the trivia nerds say on the internet? So yeah, my name is Metabeth. It’s Greek.
A: Wh-what? Like Greece?
M: Yeah, I’m from Earth, too.
U: Oh, really?
C: So, you can tell me what’s a Danny DeVito is and why everyone on Earth wants him to be a pi-ka-chu?
M: Dude, that’s reference is, like, two years old. What brought that up? Oh wait, first, he’s a short, grumpy, loveable old man that would be adorable to play an anime mouse.
C: So if Arnie and Usidore’s love child got lil’ squished.
Chunt uses his hands to show a compressing motion.
U: And what’s an anime?
A: Guys, hold up. She just said she’s from Earth. How did you get here? And why are you a ghost then?
M: Oh, well, about two weeks ago I traveled to Chicago and entered the front door of a Burger King-
C: Who phrases it like that?
M:-I was heading back to my car to go back to my friend’s place when I dropped my phone through a dimensional rift in the parking lot. Not sure if it was the same one as yours, but the size of the portal was fluctuating. I debated how far I wanted to go to get my phone. Started with a finger to slip through the hole, then when I felt I was ready, I put a second one in, wiggling it around until I could feel it.
U: So your phone was on a spot on the ground in Foon, a ground spot or g-spot, if you will.
M: Sure. The portal opened up enough so I could actually see my phone, but it was further away than I thought-
A: Oh, no.
M: Yeah, you’re catching on. By the time I was at a length to reach my phone. Bloop. Dead. My head and arm were on this side of the portal and the rest of my body is at that Burger King.
A: Wow, I am so sorry that happened to you.
U: I’m not. You got a good deal on a beheading. Why, here in Foon it would cost you an arm and a leg.
M: Well my arm is somewhere by the portal entrance if the asshole who closed the portal wants it. The morgue on Earth probably has the rest.
A: And you’ve been here for two weeks?
M: Yup! Two weeks.
A: What have you been doing with your time?
M: Well the first week I have been lying on the ground, sobbing uncontrollably about my death. Tried to hit myself with my own arm to numb the pain.
U: Your arm on this side?
M: No, my ghost arm. I don’t know how ghost work on Foon, but my head got a ghost and my arm got a ghost.
A:(turns to Usidore) Usidore, is that really how it works?
U: Oh yes. Remember Snaken Freshgrave? His foot is a ghost.
C: I think his foot is only part ghost, so everybody would have to cut the Foot Loose to make it a full ghost.
U: That’s right! Let us Hear It for the Boy.
C: Eyyy let’s hear it for my baybee.
A: Hey, stop Holding Out for a Hero.
M: Why bring up Shrek 2? It was subpar compared to the original.
A: That’s in Shrek 2? They made a Shrek 2?
M: Yeah, when I was like ten. You probably know it, right?
A: How old do you think I am?
Metabeth pauses almost ready to count but does not trust that any answer is right.
M: Hmm…that’s a trap.
Arnie looks incredulous. He turns to his co-host, hoping to find some sort of meaning in this response, but they provide no such insight.
M(CONT) : Anyway, this past week I’ve learned that Foon is real and I wanted to find you guys. When I found you guys the first time, it seem like you just finished your podcast and I didn’t want to stalk you for a week, so I’ve been trying to learn how to be a floating head.
A: So you’ve been waiting so you can get your chance to be on the podcast? I don’t know if I should be grateful or weirded out by this. You, kind of, effectively stalked us anyway so you could be on the show.
M: I guess. It’s a little of a “Notice me Sempai” moment for me.
A: A what?
M: “Notice me Sempai”? Like finding your heroes and getting them to recognize you. It’s like a weeb version of that.
C: Arnie, what’s a weeb?
A: What? I don’t know.
U: Arnold-
A: It’s Arnie.
U:-You are supposed to be our guide, our liaison, to the other world that you’ve come from. How can you claim that you don’t know these basic terminologies?
A: Well it could be slang from her generation. I’ve been gone for years now.
M: I guess it could be more slang that not slang. I just chalk it up to me being weird. I feel like I’m being a damper to all this. Maybe I’ll just go.
Metabeth turns away sadly. Arnie starts to jump out of their seats to reach out to the ghost. He does not actually leave his seats, just enough the bend their knees a little so the chairs make a scrapping noise.
A: No, you’re fine! You can stay!
C: See what you did Arnie, you hurt her feelings.
U: There, There, sad Metabeth. Would it ease your pain to hurt Arnie with your words like he has hurt you with his?
C: Or try to hit him with your ghost arm?
A: Hey…
M: I can’t. My arm kind of just does what it wants these days. Hey, if I can’t control my arm and it acts on its own, does it really belong to me? Is it still me? Whoa. Philosophical questions, man.
C: A real Existentialism on Prom Night.
U: I suppose there would not be any relations if the arm has sentient and independent of use. Perhaps if we can find this phantom limb, we can see if it responds to our questions without your assistance.
M: Sounds easier than hitting myself with my own skull.
A: That doesn’t seem physically possible.
M: Well I am a ghost and that reference was just for me. So, I think that’s a great place to start. Find ghost arm and you guys can teach me how to ghost!
A: But we’re not ghosts. Wouldn’t it be easier to find other ghosts to help you? Chunt, isn’t your dad a hunger ghost?
C: EW I’m not trying to set up my dad with someone else.(turns to Metabeth to solely talk to her) Um, by the way, he’s a really nice guy and very funny.
M:(to Chunt) Oh I’ve heard. Not sure if I’m ready to date other ghosts yet, though. So, um, thank you?
C: But hey, this seems like a good opportunity for us. It’s been a while we’ve been on a real quest.
U: We’re always on a quest TO DEFEAT THE DARK LORD!
C: I’m just saying, we don’t have much going on in the immediate future. Arnie even said that we didn’t have guest today. We could head out, leave the tavern, and find Metabeth’s arm.
A: You lost me on leaving the tavern.
C: You lazy shit.
A: Chunt!...(exhales)…You’re a good friend.
C: You’re a good friend.
M: Um, can we still put a pin on finding my arm or my arm ghost?
A: Oh yeah sure.
Arnie pulls out a pen and paper starts to scribble down on a piece of paper.
A(CONT):(mumbles) Find Metabeth’s dead arm.
M: Oh, and ghost arm.
A:(mumbles)...and ghost arm.
U: I wouldn’t put too much faith in finding her physical arm. It has been two weeks after all.
M: Aww…
C: Usidore! Now you hurt her feelings.
Chunt now pulls out a pen and paper and starts to scribble.
C(CONT): Now I have to put your name down for who Metabeth has to hit with her arm. Arnie…. Usidore….
M: But you guys will help me find my ghost arm, right?
Arnie, Chunt and Usidore give wearily looks and reluctantly agree.
M(CONT) : …You didn’t actually write it down, did you?
A: It’s on the list!
C:(sarcastically) Yeah, right above defeating the Dark Lord.
Arnie, glares at Chunt.
C(CONT): What?
A: It’s. On. The. List. And guys, I got a system on the best way to get all these tasks done. Every item is important.
U: Of Course, of course. We will most certainly aid you on your quest. We will always help those who need it because it is good. And I am devoted to defeat evil. FOR I AM USIDORE THE BLUE! And I swear on the conspiracy of wind, fire, earth, and birds, and lightning, and rocks, and frogs, and mud from which I was born from, FULL FORMED AND STARK NAKED, to be champion of Foon and return your missing limbs to you because that is what was right and just in this land!
M : It’s really only one arm.
A: Why are you focused on just finding your arm here? Wouldn’t you want to return to Earth where the rest of you and your family is?
C: Weird to hear that come out of your mouth.
M: You see…I never really believed in ghost until I became one. I guess I’m a little scared that if I go back to Earth, I may not exist. I mean the portal was still open when I died and I didn’t see my body produce a ghost.
C: ARNIE! The portal is still open, you can return home!
M: Oh no, it’s gone now. At least I didn’t see it open while I was crying on the ground. Such an ugly cry.
A: Well you probably couldn’t see through the tears in your eye.
M: So, yeah, no, the portal is gone. And I still don’t know if ghosts exist on Earth.
C: Yeah, I would hate if you broke the show with that revelation. UGH.
A: I love to return to Earth to-
C: No no no no, I just remembered I described your and Usidore’s love child and I threw up in my mouth.
A and U: What?
M: It was a bit and a half ago. Eyy the power of editing.
A: So, Metabeth, can I call you Beth?
M: No.
A: So, Metabeth, it seems like you’ve learned a few ghost tricks like floating in the short time you’ve been here in Foon. That’s pretty impressive, even if you’re just a floating head.
M: Yeah. It did take some time. I rolled around a lot. Got some dirt and shit up my noncorporeal head. So, the transparency was nice. Once I learned how to float, the world did open up more.
A: Have you been traveling a lot then?
M: Uhhh kinda. I was a little lost when I first came out. And no one could fucking see me for a while since I haven’t learned how to be visible yet.
U: You should see Germ then. She’s a makeup artist that can highlight ghosts.
M: Is she still alive? I’m not caught up yet.
U: Then I won’t ruin it for you.
M: Might’ve helped. I was kicked in the face a whole lot. I wanted to ask around for directions and actually learn where I was.
A: Then how did you know that this was Foon?
M: Mostly assumption. Travelers love to say “Here in the land of Foon”.
U: Ah, yes. People here in the land of Foon are known to say that thing.
M: I’m still 70/30 that this is all a dream of my dying mind though.
C: That’s very M. Night of you.
A: What’s M. Night here in the land of Foon?
C: It’s between L. Nights and N. Nights where everything ends is a twist. At first it was amazing, but now its predictable.
M: It’s a whole Shama Lama Ding Dong.
A: I had a dream that I was Delta at a toga party.
M: What?
A: Shit, are you too young for that reference?
Everyone gives a puzzled look to Arnie.
A(CONT):(whimpers)…Animal House?
Metabeth hesitates, then blows raspberries.
A(CONT): Oh god…
Arnie puts his hands on his face in depression. Chunt and Usidore holds off giving a similar aged face but are still relieved that they are not as old as Arnie is in comparison.
C: Metabeth, let’s get to know a little more about you. How old are you?
M: I’m mid 20s.
Arnie slumps lower into his chair in sadness.
M(CONT): I’m actually a little curious about you though, Chunt. You said your age fluctuate with the shapeshifting, but how old are you actually? You were born in a Foon year, how many Foon years ago was that?
C: I rather not kiss and tell.
M: I don’t think that’s how that phrase works?
C: Are you sure?
M: Pretty sure.
C: Well it might be different on Earth than it is in Foon.
M: So what’s “kiss and tell” on Foon?
U: “Kiss and Tell” is when two being, man, woman, child-
A: Don’t say child.
U:-rock, bird, elf, etcetera agree on when they were blessed by the kiss of life. Then they tell people about it.
A: So you need two people to determine an age?
U: Don’t you need two people on Earth to determine the age? At the very least it can be between the person who was asked and a complete stranger.
M: That does make sense, I guess. And not that far off from Earth “Kiss and Tell”.
C: So what’s Earth’s “Kiss and Tell”?
A: Don’t bother with more Earth stuff Metabeth.
M, C, and U: Aww….
A: Oh fine, you can talk about Earth stuff if you want.
C: Awesome! So, Metabeth, what’s “Kiss and Tell”?
M: Ehhh…I don’t wanna talk about Earth stuff right now.
C: Dammit.
M: Nah just kidding. I always wanted to say that. It’s like your “Kiss and Tell” but more actually kissing than telling.
C: Ew.
U: Gross.
M: Oh, I suddenly regret the phrasing of that statement. Can I explain it again?
U: No. It’s too late. You already said it.
M: God dammit.
A: Alright let’s take a quick break-
M: Really? You want to put in your sponsor after that mess of an explanation. It just included children in kissing and telling.
The group talks at the same time.
A: Jeez
C: Nooo…
U: Boooo
A: Well now I can’t shift it over like that. We’ll lose our sponsorship.
U: Dear Listeners of the podcast, the opinions of our guests do not reflect the opinions of the hosts.
M: So, I get a redo?
A, C, and U: No!
C: It’s funnier this way, trust us.
M: Are you sure? It mostly feels like a One Person Amateur Hour? Like you think you’re being funny but it’s really jokes you’re writing to yourself?
C: Mmmmm…no.
A: It doesn’t have to be funny.
U: Maybe your jokes are just overtly meta.
A: Okay, now should be a good time take that break.
C: I’m going to grab a drink from the bar. You guys want anything?
U: I shall take an ale, of course. Why thank you, Chunt.
A: I’m feeling a little bloated-
U: Little?
C: Feeling?
A: …I’m good with water.
M: OH! I can finally try a rainbow bowl! No hallucinogens though. Does not work well with me.
A: But ghost can’t eat anything, right?
M: Really? Fuck.
U: Haven’t you noticed that you weren’t hungry during the last two weeks? That you didn’t eat or drink anything or felt the need?
M: Well, once again, that first week is a little of a mulligan. So what things…can I have at the bar?
C: Well you don’t have to get anything.
U: I believe that during the Dark Lord’s reign over Hogsface, there may be a stash of tingle in the back. If you consume it, the that should protect the mere mortals of the tavern and take the power away from the forces of evil.
M: And what would that do to me?
U: You should be more ghostly and see your brain.
M: Would you guys still be able to see me?
U: I’m pretty sure.
M: Then I will try that!
C: Well Usidore, that will on your tab then.
A: Okay let’s take a break for real.
The scene changes and Mundel plays the sponsor theme. A spotlight shines on a single vendor, PODLEY, in fairly peasant garb ready to talk.
PODLEY: Hello, my name is Podley. I am a temporary work for my company until I pay back my master, which is a large sum. I am here to offer the services of me and my compatriots for several odd end jobs. So, if you have been having trouble paying close attention to details or difficult tasks, constantly lose things, and cannot perform structured tasks, come find us with RIDALIMB. With RIDALIMB, you can get the assistance you need with simple task like finding your way home, locating your child, remembering you have a child, cooking food without leaving the fire on for too long. We understand that even easy tasks are hard. We’re in Foon; living is hard. So, hire us. My family is in desperate need for food. Our master asked paid for this advertisement in hopes to make up for my incompetence. If you don’t hire me or any of my peers, my master will get rid of one of our limbs in order to offset the debt. Ask my master if RIDALIMB is the right choice for you. But I hope it is, and I hope it’s me.
The music stops and the scene rolls back to the Vermillion Minotaur. Arnie, Chunt, and Usidore are back at the table with their drinks while Metabeth is floating around and rolling in the air.
A: And we’re back. I hope everyone had a good break.
M:(still rolling) WooOOOooo
U: Do not worry. I will go contain her.
Usidore stands up from his chair and his hands meet up with Metabeth’s head to grab her. He brings the head down to the table and paces the head on the table.
M: Aww…
A: How are you feeling, Metabeth?
M:(sadly) I mean, I’m sobering up pretty quickly.
C: Yeah, and you went through the whole tingle stash all at once.
M: Yeah, was that really safe? It was my first time doing all that.
A: Well it’s not like you can overdose on it or anything.
M: I’m already dead, asshole.
A: That’s what I mean! I mean, realistically, what’s the worst thing that could happen as a ghost?
U: You can get addicted to it. It’s still a drug by the way.
C: I think my dad was in rehab for his tingle addition.
M: Yeah, why did you guys let me take so many at once?
A: Hey, when you say stuff here, foresight is 20/20.
C: Isn’t it hindsight?
A: Alright, 60/40.
U: You didn’t even change the term, just the number.
A: Oh, you know how bad I am at math.
U: Is that really the crux of the argument?
A: But hey, we still have a guest. Normally, we just ask how they spend their time in Foon, but since you already summed up your experience before the break, I guess we can ask about your life on Earth?
C: So is this technically an Earth Stuff Episode?
A: We already had an Earth Stuff Episode and we’re halfway through this one.
C: But it’s been decades since we did an Earth Stuff episode.
A: It’s more like years, not decades. What was the time I said in at the top of the podcast? It’s about that amount of time.
C: But we got a score to settle with the time between Earth Stuff episodes!
M: Are these just year puns now?
U: Oh, pointing out the theme of the banter. Such a millennial move.
M: Oh, OK Boomer. Wait, what’s a millennial here in the land of Foon?
U: Someone that lives within a single millennium. Easy enough. Now what’s a Boomer on Earth?
M: A crotchety, nasty old man that won’t let me do what I want.
U:(gasps) How DARE you!?!?
A: Alright, lets focus up again to the interview.
C: Arnie focusing us up?
U: That doesn’t seem right. Did you get a free sample from Ridalimb?
A: What’s that?
U: And he’s back.
C: Yup, no need to go back to the marketing for this.
U: Unless it’s for BETTER HELP!
A: Anyway, Metabeth
M: Yup.
A: If it’s not too much trouble, can you tell us your life while you were alive?
C:(gasps) Arnie, you can’t just ask what people did when they were still alive?
U: So not fetch.
M: Shit, now I’m struggling with what today’s date is.
C: It’s October 3rd.
M: Nice.
A: There’s got to be a limit to how many times we can get off track.
U: The limit does not exist, Arnold.
A: It’s Arnie.
M: I’m sorry, are we still doing this?
A: Oh right! So Metabeth.
M: Yup.
A: What was your life like back on Earth?
M: Oh yeah, so I was born in New Jersey-
Arnie, Chunt, and Usidore give a collective groan.
M: You have a problem with Jersey, Ohio?
A: There’s just a bunch of jokes about New Jersey.
M: I’ve heard almost all of them.
A: That people live there to commute to the better states.
U: And the people are Orange and full of trash.
Arnie and Metabeth stare at Usidore.
U(CONT): Are we not talking about Old Jersey?
A: No, there’s a New Jersey on Earth, and probably an old Jersey.
C: Oh, and what’s Jersey like on Earth?
A and M: It’s about the same.
M: And to make fun of where you came from, I see why you left.
A: I don’t know what you mean. Just because the last place I lived on Earth was Chicago, doesn’t mean I don’t have fond memories of my home in Ohio.
M: Well most of the astronauts came from there and the left to get away.
A: They were astronauts! They left the entire Earth!
M: SO DID YOU!
U: She’s got a point.
C: Does she? I mean the whole thing seems forced.
U: That’s true.
A: Well, we can talk about something else-
C: No more Earth Stuff?
M: I mean, what do you need to know?
C: Why are all the adults on Earth tired of hangout out with their kids this year?
M: Jesus Christ. If I had control of my hand, I would palm myself on the forehead.
A: Then you could’ve had a V8.
U: And why are people trying to flatten the curb? Surely curves are supposed to have their peaks.
M: This might be where I have to pull the “I don’t want to talk about Earth stuff” card.
A: Then now that you’re dead, what are you gonna do next?
C: Is that your “What’s next?” version for other Earth people?
M: I think I’ll settle down by the city of fish.
A: The city of fish?
U: Like Fish City?
A: Fish City?
C: Fish City.
M: Yeah, keep going.
A: Fish City.
C:(giggles) Fish City
A: Fish City. Fish City. Fish City. Fish City. Fish City. Fish City. Fi-OH GOD DAMMIT!
M: Ah HA! Gotcha! Yeah, I don’t know what I want to do. Maybe I’ll do something I always wanted to do on Earth that now I have all the time for.
A: What’s that?
M: Screenwriting. Well I guess it would be play writing since you guys…don’t have movies.
C: Ooo any stories you have in mind?
M: That’s the thing, I’ve always been an outline person. Coming up with a compelling story is not really in my wheelhouse. Same with improv and causal, lighthearted conversations that last more than 30 minutes. I just write ideas and then never come back to them again.
U: I guess you do have all the time in the world to practice the craft.
M: Exactly! Although I did explore other options. Like there is an actual science community here. I have a rudimentary understanding of math and science, and sanitation, and hygiene that I could share with this world. Prevent diseases here common on Earth and the abundance of child death. So, so much child death.
A: Yes, so much child death.
M: But, you know, I just want to do entertainment.
U: Oh sweet child-
M: I’m in my mid 20s.
U: You can use your gifts that you have acquired here in Foon and develop the world closer to how it is on Earth. But with Magic! Is it really worth abandoning this knowledge? You have so much potential.
A: I’m from Earth, too.
U: Well, you have such little potential.
M: And I do have a plan when I’m here longer. I still need to grasp how to grasp things as a ghost. I plan to go to that science center, write down small tidbits of science on a piece of paper, put that paper in an envelope, and write down “magical revelations” on it. That should confuse the shit out of them.
Chunt finishes his drink loudly. A ghost of the drink starts to float up.
M(CONT): Oooooo can I drink that?
C: Yeah, go ahead, it’s a ghost after all.
M: SERIOUSLY?!
Metabeth rushes to the ghost drink and tries to chug it like there’s no tomorrow.
A: Chug chu-oh she’s already finished.
C: Damnnn
M: I MISS BEER!!
U: Don’t get too overzealous about it or you’ll be forced to go to AA.
A: AA?
U: It is-uhhh-Ad-Adventurers in Abbeys.
C: Yeah, that’s when you go to an abbey drunk, find a pipe, and collect all the coins and mushrooms.
U: And you can’t return to the surface until you sober up.
A: Do you get to keep the coins and stuff?
C: Only if you make it back to the castle. You will have to start over if you trip or fall or get hit by a hammer.
U: Unless you ate one of the mushrooms beforehand.
A: And which castle would you have to return to?
C: I’m pretty sure it’s the castle with the peaches. Oh, and it has a flagpole you have to touch.
U: Try not to be on the adventure during the wintertime. I knew someone who got their tongue stuck on it.
A: Why would you use your tongue?
U: It wasn’t me. It was Chris.(sinisterly) I dared him to do it.
C: I know this. This is A Chris-Must Story I have to hear every year.
U: I tell it all day at Tavern Be Salty.
C: The TBS?
U: That’s the one.
C: Well, I know what I’m doing next Chris-must. Arnie, you should come with.
A: Well I would like to B-B with you, but I might shoot my eye out.
M: Booo
A: You better be practicing your ghost.
M: Sure, why not.
Mundel trills
A: So guys, this would be the time that I would read out the emails sent to us. As always, you can reach me at [email protected], yes it’s a real email address. And you can continue to email all of us there, but right now I don’t have any emails to read out today.
U: Really?
A: Yeah, don’t read too much into why I don’t have any. Hopefully, we’ll have more emails to read next podcast.
C: Wow, you didn’t come prepared for a guest, you don’t have any emails, you ruined Boys Night-
U: Actually, Metabeth ruined Boys’ Night.
M: Still here by the way.
U: You heard me.
M: You wanna fight, mate?
U: What’s with the accent all of a sudden?
C: I think Metabeth is still on that tingle buzz.
A: Tingle. Not Even Once.
C: Well sure, mortals will die when they take it.
Chunt shuffles some papers around to find his emails.
C(CONT): Luckily for you guys, I have an email with me. You can email me at [email protected]. That is Chunt with six T’s. You can also reach me at chuntttttt, also with six t’s, on Twitter.
U: And you can reach me on Twitter at usidoretheblue.
C: Okay, the email is from OP: “Hi Chunt, Arnie and Usidore. I started listening to you guys around the beginning of September 2020. I was the one that asked you to bring Clayton and Chris from Hell to be on the show.-“
U: Who are they?
C: Baby don’t know. I guess people from Hell she wants you to summon.
U: Well if they are evil, they will go back to the depths where they belong.
C: Alright, okay. Um: “I’m not sure when you read these emails, so I wanted to give a frame of reference…. besides the timestamp of the email, I guess. Anyway, around halfway of my binging of Season 2, I started to write a fan fiction script. Note: I am not a writer, this is still a #philthevoid type of amateur content, but I hope that when you read this, you’ll get a good chuckle on the overload of meta jokes and how much fans, even recent ones, appreciate what you do. Even if you can’t read any of this on the podcast, I’ll see if I can put the full form on reddit! Hopefully when you read this, I’ll be completely caught up to the whole series. I’m excited to see what you guys do next. All the Best, OP” And then there was a Bangin’ Buds attached, and oh boy, it’s a fucking novel.
A: Let me see?
Arnie takes the papers, including the script from Chunt.
A: Holy shit, how fucking long is this?
U: It seems to be the length of a standard podcast episode.
M: Or at least an attempt to be. One pages doesn’t necessarily equal one minute. Even during edits, you can’t really gauge how long scripts could be.
U: Spoken like a true novice of the art of writing.
A: Is there even a bit you can read off?
C: Well, I started to try to find something we can say, but the beginning is weird: “The Mysterious Man is alone in a control room that looks like a sci-fi server room from the Earth’s 1980s. He speaks into a similarly teched-out microphone. The Mysterious Man: The following podcast is not real. If it were real, it would most certainly not be dictated by a script written by a fan.” Like why include this “mysterious man” in the first place?
U: That is strange.
A: Well we do get some emails directed to him. I always thought that people were referring to another podcast but maybe she included that part so we don’t confuse it with a transcript of the podcast.
U and C: What’s a transcript?
A: Oh geez…um okay, it’s like if someone took our words and wrote everything down from start to finish.
C: Like every time I say “Baybee. Making Baybee. Nasty boi”?
A: Uh, yeah. If you said it would be written out for other people to read.
U: Wait, we do have that here in the land Foon, but you really think someone is listening to the words I speak at this very moment and writing each individual word?
A: Yeah, that’s how it works.
U: Waste of time, but okay.
Usidore creeps up to the podcast equipment as if to sneak up to the mic.
U(CONT): Dear listener on the other side of the microphone. I am not sure why you wish to write all that I speak, but do not be misguided FOR ONE SECOND that you can control me with your words. STOP. YOUR. RECORDING. STOP IT! I alone dictate my words and you cannot predict anything for you are, most likely, a powerless human with nothing special about you. I am a wizard of awesome power that CANNOT BE CONTAINED! For this magic you are performing, this Dark Magic, must not continue whist the Dark Lord ruins amuck in all dimensions. Try to stop me with these words. Pineapple. Storks. The ale filled with spiders. Dicks and Balls. Squizzle nugget. Moist. Dosodorph. Hungry, Egg shells
Usidore shifts his tone from his threatening voice to his sensual recipe reading voice.
U(CONT): Ham Sandwich. Slow dried Jerky. Deviled eggs, seasons with the most exquisite spices. Carefully laid on top of some crisp lettuce and carrots. Served cold with a side of rooster feet imported from Fingeria. And smothered wit-
Arnie snaps his fingers in front of Usidore.
A: Usidore! Usidoore!
C: I think he’s in the Recipe State again.
U: Uh UH AH! Ah, what was I saying?
A: I think it was just random nonsense.
U: Do you think the audience could follow that?
C: Usidore, we couldn’t even follow that if we tried.
U: Ah, good. Suck on that TRANSCRIPTOR!
M: OH, I almost forgot! Usidore! I have a secret name for you from Earth!
U: I would like to know one of these names.
M: The average human knows you as Matt Young.
U: I will add it to the list.
M: Just only use it when you want one less wall.
A: Alright, so Metabeth, thank you for being on the show.
M: Yeah, thanks for having me.
C: Maybe we’ll see you again and help you find your ghost arm.
M: Ehhhh, it might be a one-time deal. But hey, I’m always open for if you need me. Well….kinda. Maybe I’ll figure out this ghost thing first.
U: You should also find the Cockticklers to collaborate with them and train yourself to the art of playwriting.
M: Even I’m just a head, I can probably still be a good Cocktickler.
C: They could benefit from a good head.
U: Just try not to use too much teeth.
M: But I can still use my tongue, right?
A: Oh God Dammit.
The scene zooms out from the table. Mundel starts to play the outro, but static cuts in and shifts the scene back to the bunker. Different blips and bloops are played in the back and we focus on the Mysterious Man again in his broadcast room again.
MM: Well isn’t that a fan’s wet dream. Ugh, I’m so glad I don’t have to humor that dribble anymore. You can even tell that the script was just a random stream of thought. But then again, that makes it no different than the garbage made from the improv nonsense we’re all used to by now. Arnie Niekamp was played by Arnie Niekamp, because I don’t mention it enough that all of this is even faker than it usually is. Usidore the Wizard was played by Matt Young, who wasn’t sure any of his monologues was long enough. Chunt the Shapeshifting Badger was played by Adal Rifai, which the screenwriter had to look up to make sure his name was spelled right. It’s easy, it’s R-I-then you let google autofill the rest. Metabeth the Head Ghost was played by Special Guest OP. She wrote the entire script instead of studying for her licensing exam. Shame on you! She doesn’t really have any sharable social media in fear that she will fall back into depression when she sees all her friends are having fun without her. Podley is played by whoever wants it. And Chest Trunkborn was briefly played by Travis McElroy, in hopes we can get two snip bits from him. It also says the Mysterious Man is played by Tim Sniffen, but I play myself. Go back and fact check your actors. Produced by Arnie Niekamp, Matt Young, and Adal Rifai. Edited by No One since OP does not believe in the concept in proofreading. Theme music by Andy Poland. Logo by Allard Lamban. Whew. One fan script down, about hundreds more to go. Have any of these newbies taken an English Class in their life?
Static shifts to Mundel starts to play the outro music again.
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2020.09.27 06:47 Stumpstomp9000 Have I been misunderstanding my Non-Compete Agreement? (Ohio)

Located in Ohio.
I handle real estate closing paperwork for a title company. My ASSUMPTION was that my non-compete means I cannot work for another title company until it expires (three month period). But I just re-read it, and wonder if that is actually what it means. Would anyone mind reading the relevant page (pasted below) and advise?
If it does mean I can't work for another competing company, would you also comment as to whether you think this is enforceable? I am not in an officemanagerial/supervisory position, and it is not a particularly skilled position that requires a degree or advanced training. It's a position learned on-the-job, and people are often hired into the position with no prior experience.
Notes:
MANY Thanks in advance!

On to the nitty gritty:

6.1 During the term of Employee’s employment with the Company, Employee
agrees: (a) to devote Employee’s best efforts and entire business time and attention to the
Company’s business; and (b) that Employee will not, directly or indirectly operate, engage in,
assist, be employed by, or have an ownership interest in any business entity that engages in the
same business or any planned business of the Company, or whose ownership would otherwise
create a conflict of interest, without the written consent of a Vice President of the Company, which
the Company may in its absolute discretion withhold. [DOES THIS SECTION APPLY AFTER I AM NO LONGER EMPLOYED BY THE COMPANY OR ONLY WHILE I AM EMPLOYED BY THEM? I MAY HAVE MISTAKENLY ASSUMED THIS TO MEAN I CANNOT WORK FOR A COMPETITOR AFTERWARDS.]
6.2 During the term of Employee’s employment with the Company, and for a
period of one (1) year thereafter, regardless of whether such employment terminates on a voluntary
or involuntary basis (the “Period”), <----[THIS IS WHAT WE NEGOTIATED TO 3 MONTHS AND ONLY IF I QUIT] Employee agrees that Employee will not, directly or indirectly,
alone, with others, or on behalf of others, solicit, contact, sell to, seek to provide products or
services to or do business with (other than for a business that does not compete with or engage in
the same business of the Company) any customer or potential customer of the Company who
Employee interacted with, became acquainted with, or learned of through access to information
while Employee employed with the Company, [DOES THIS SECTION MAKE ME STUCK REGARDLESS? THE ENTIRE WORLD IS 'POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS' OF THE COMPANY. AND IT IS VERY LIKELY CERTAIN CUSTOMERS WOULD USE MULTIPLE COMPETING COMPANIES, SO I COULD INADVERTENTLY VIOLATE THIS..] without the written consent of a Vice President of
the Company, which the Company may in its absolute discretion withhold.
6.3 During the Period, Employee agrees that Employee will not, directly or
indirectly, alone, with others, or on behalf of others, (a) solicit, seek to employ, hire or attempt to
hire or retain the services of any person who is at that time or was within the previous one (1) year
providing services to the Company as an employee or independent contractor, or (b) persuade or
induce or attempt to persuade or induce any such person to leave his/her employment or to refrain
from providing services to the Company.
6.4 During the Period, Employee agrees that Employee will not, alone, with
others, or on behalf of others, directly or indirectly, contact, divert or solicit any customer or
supplier of the Company or take any action which would cause such customer or supplier to reduce
or change the terms or conditions under which it does business with the Company. This includes
but is not limited to a prohibition against any action that would, directly or indirectly, interfere in
any manner with, or induce the interference with or cancellation of, any contracts, orders, or
commitments, whether existing, pending, or in the negotiation or inquiry stage.
6.5 Employee agrees that, for a period of one (1) year after the termination of
Employee’s employment with the Company, Employee will promptly inform the Company in
writing of Employee’s subsequent employment, self-employment or other business affiliations.
Such information will include, but not be limited to: (a) the name and address of the business entity
with which Employee has such relationship; and (b) the general nature of the Employee’s business-
related activities. To the extent requested by the Company, Employee agrees to provide such
additional information as the Company believes is reasonably necessary for the Company to
ascertain whether Employee is complying with this Agreement.
6.6 Employee agrees that in the event of a violation of this Section 6 during the
one (1) year period following the termination of Employee’s employment with the Company, this
Agreement shall be extended automatically as follows: the duration of such extension shall equal
the period of time between the date Employee began such violation and the date Employee
permanently ceases the violation or the date of a court order enforcing this provision, whichever is
later.
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2020.09.26 06:24 scratchherwatch Labels? Questioning my orientation, does it even matter?

I’m a 42 year old cis female. I’ve been divorced for 15 years and am a single parent to two teenage girls. I feel like I have no true idea what my sexuality is and I don’t even know if a label matters because I have no interest in being in a relationship. I’ve come to understand that as a teenager and in my early twenties, I was hyper sexual due to daddy issues. (Absent father). I slept around a lot. Both men and women. But it was never because I liked having sex. I got married and of course had sex with my husband regularly. Except the last 6 month to a year of the marriage. Towards the end I was subjected to marital rape. I woke up during the act. His reasoning was I had withheld sex for so long and wasn’t affectionate. It resulted in my second pregnancy.
I actually have never wrote that down or said that to anyone before now.
I kicked him out and divorced him. I actually had to wait on the divorce because I was pregnant. That was 15 years ago and I’ve only casually dated a couple people since then. I devoted my time and energy being a single mom and raising my girls. Ive been relatively happy. I do get lonely for companionship occasionally. But I have always been personal space kind of person. I am affectionate with my kids. I am not affectionate with anyone else. I hate people in my bubble. Even when I have been in a relationship, I didn’t want anyone up on me. Or kissing on me. Or snuggling. Or touching me at all when I sleep. It sounds crazy but when I’ve had sex, it’s basically been because it was expected. Not even that they expected it, it was like I expected it. A lot of my expectations came from reading romance novels as a teen. (This was my only examples of relationships, my mom and dad was divorced since I was 5 and she never dated anyone else.) So, it was like a formula. Girl meets guy. They spend time together. They have sex.
I don’t have any desire for any of that. The older I get the clearer it is to me that I don’t want any of the things that come with being in a relationship. I don’t think I ever did. I could happily go the rest of my life without ever having sex again. But, I occasionally still get aroused. Usually right before my menstrual cycle. I think it may just be the surge in hormones. But I take care of that myself. I don’t ever think , boy, I wish someone was here with me. Also, I can bang one out thinking about people having sex, but I don’t think about me having sex. It’s very confusing to me. I sometimes feel like I should want a relationship. I’ve been asked if I thought about growing old and being lonely with no one to spend my life with. Sure, that sounds horrible. But I can’t imagine wanting to be with someone either. I know I don’t need to put a label on my sexuality. But my daughter was so relieved to tell me she is a lesbian. It’s such a big part of her identity. I feel like I should know that about myself. This has been too long and rambling, I know. I feel ridiculous to be in my forties and so unsure of myself. Thanks to whoever took the time to read through this. It’s the first time trying to put my feelings all together in a semi coherent manner. I think it’s helped just typing this out and reading through it.
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2020.09.25 14:36 VisibleConfusion69 Open Letter to Steve Huffman and the Board of Directors of Reddit, Inc- If you believe in standing up to hate and supporting black lives, you need to act

Open Letter to Steve Huffman and the Board of Directors of Reddit, Inc – If you believe in standing up to hate and supporting black lives, you need to act
Dear Steve,
On June 1, you shared a letter on Reddit’s blog “Remember the Human – Black Lives Matter”. In this letter, you claim “as Snoos, we do not tolerate hate, racism, and violence, and while we have work to do to fight these on our platform, our values are clear.”
As of today, neither you nor any other Reddit admins have shared this letter anywhere on reddit.com. However, the response to this message was swift on Twitter, where you were rightfully labeled as hypocritical based on your long and well-recorded history of defending racism and white supremacy on this site.
Among the many responses was this message from former CEO of Reddit, Ellen Pao.
I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all day long
Many others shared links and screenshots of your past statements saying “Open racism and slurs are fine to post on Reddit”.
The problem of Reddit’s leadership supporting and providing a platform for racist users and hateful communities has long been an issue. Nearly six years ago, dozens of subreddits signed the original open letter to the Reddit admins calling for action. While the Reddit admins acknowledged the letter and said it was a high priority to address this issue, extremely little has been done in the intervening years.
On June 5, you shared this update on /Announcements, Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here. In the post, you stated that there is a need for continued adjustments of Reddit’s content policy to address racism and that this remains a priority. These continued statements that you hear us, that this is a priority, or that you are working on it are not enough. It has been five years since your return as CEO and this still remains Reddit’s most glaring problem.
Steve, if you and Reddit genuinely care about the values of standing up to racism and hate, then you need to back it up with real action. As moderators on this website who have dedicated countless hours to keeping this site running, we call on Reddit to take the following steps:
At /AgainstHateSubreddits, we have laid out the many failures of Steve time and again to stand up to white supremacy on this site time and time and time again.
With a website with the impact of Reddit on the broader conversations being held in communities around the world, this website needs real leadership and real action.
We hope that Reddit will not just share empty platitudes — but will take a meaningful stand against hate, and take these recommendations to heart.
This letter is co-signed by more than 200 300 350 430 550 650 800 communities representing well over 200 hundreds of millions of subscribers:
If your subreddit is not listed and would like to sign on, please leave a comment below
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2020.09.25 09:57 RazorBlood6 Fuck it, let's do this. My ranking of every single TK song

Title says it all. I'm gonna be making a ranking of pretty much every song by The Killers. By every song, I mean every song that I'm familiar with, any songs I'm not familiar with won't be featured on this list, due to me not being able to effectively rank them. Covers are excluded because they aren't TK songs, and remixes don't count either.
Also, don't get too pissed if a song you like is low or a song you hate is high, it's all just my opinion. I will also include a short paragraph on why I'm putting a song in a certain position. Enterlude and Exitlude are going to be paired up with When You Were Young and Why Do I Keep Counting respectively. Finally, a lot of these are interchangeable to an extent, and most songs can go up to about 5 spots higher or lower.
86: Get Trashed
Big surprise, do I even need to explain this one?
85: Land of the Free
I can't even remember the last time I listened to this song. I pretty much NEVER listen to it, and while the overall message of the song is an important one, it feels all message and no delivery. If anything, this song feels like a political social media post, and has nothing going on to hold it up musically.
84: Out of My Mind
The worst song officially on any album is Out of My Mind. I honestly just find it tedious, doing pretty much nothing interesting musically, and lyrics that are not only awful (I can't get you out of my mind to get you out of my bed), but don't fit on Wonderful Wonderful. AT LEAST Some Kind of Love has lyrics that make sense for the type of album it is, but this is just awful. And honestly, don't be surprised when most of Wonderful Wonderful takes up the next few spaces, that album has aged awfully, and the release of Imploding the Mirage hasn't helped in the slightest.
83: Who Let You Go?
Look, I'm not exactly sure how many people are going to get pissed off after seeing WLYG this low, but I also can't really see many people having it high on their list, so I might as well massacre it. I can take repetition, but holy shit, this song takes it too far. And the thing is, I don't mind the verses, but I never listen to this song because it just frustrates me how pointless it feels. There's a damn good reason this song didn't make it onto Hot Fuss, and I for one am glad it didn't.
82: Some Kind of Love
What is arguably the most boring song in The Killers' discography comes in at 82. It just goes on for way too long, and there's no passionate delivery, the build-up is incredibly lack-luster, and I'd argue that this is the point of the album where any chance at redemption is killed, even if we do get The Calling a few songs later, which is a great song, but I can't even pretend to dance or enjoy this song, and anything this song tries to achieve is done better by other songs on the album.
81: Where the White Boys Dance
For me, WTWBD is definitely the worst song of the Sam's Town era. It just feels completely lifeless, and the lyrics aren't bad, but they feel like Hot Fuss leftovers that they tried to repurpose into a song an album later, but failed, so kept it as a B-side, and shoved it onto Sawdust. And given that Sawdust is an album that I never listen to in full, only having it in my shuffle TK playlist, I find myself skipping it, often midway when I try to give the song another chance, but still skip it because I just can't get behind it.
80: Life to Come
This could be considered a comforting song, but it suffers similar problems to quite a few Wonderful Wonderful songs. It goes on for too long, barely adding anything new to the song, but also the chorus just feels incredibly flat. It's just hollow sentiments that feel vague and non-descriptive, and while I see why someone could like this song, it just really doesn't do much in my honest opinion.
79: The Man
HOT TAKE ALERT! I know that putting The Man all the way down is going to ruffle feathers, but hear me out please. I honestly used to love this song, but over time, it has fallen far. Maybe it's because Brandon can't sell what he's trying to sing, especially when you take into account the fact that it's on an album that tries to be comforting, but doesn't really have the ability to even sarcastically deliver these lyrics, especially since his whole career has been one of sincerity, and it doesn't even come across as a fictional story like on Hot Fuss, simply just Brandon being obnoxious, and making the song enjoyable only enjoyable if you're listening to it ironically. To put it straight, it's all hook and no actual substance. But hey, I guess that hook works for some, since it somehow managed to come first in the recent Wonderful Wonderful survivor, but hooks alone don't work for me, that's why it's coming this low. (Have mercy on please)
78: The World We Live In
I've never really cared for this song, and honestly, before making this list, I expected it to be further down. But I did just listen to Day & Age last night again, and I could see why people would like it, I just find this song to be kinda all over the place, and Brandon's delivery of the chorus feels really flat, and that's before we bring in the weird vocal filteautotune type thing found on the verse that doesn't sound good at all, and I'm not someone who's always opposed to autotune and other vocal effects, but here it doesn't work at all.
77: Have All the Songs Been Written?
I know that many of you would probably have this even lower, and while I don't exactly like the song, it's coming in at 77 after all, I don't find to be an abomination of epic proportions. The lyrics are still super basic and come across as desperate and faux-deep, and the song does barely anything interesting, and is the easily the band's worst album closer, it's also got some decent vocals, and I can see why somebody would really like it, and I don't really have any personal vendettas against it.
76: Glamorous Indie Rock and Roll
Brandon Flowers once called this the worst song he has ever written, and while I wouldn't quite go that far, I don't think he's wrong for hating it so much. The lyrics are stupid, with no actual sentiment or real meaning to them, and doesn't even any form of hook that could possibly make it at least catchy. But at the same time, it's just nothing really, not a failure of epic proportions, and although I don't like the song, it's also not something that I will skip every single time, and it's stupid enough that someone could possibly unironically enjoy it. I think the irony of this song works better than The Man at least.
75: Daddy's Eyes
I'm not saying that Daddy's Eyes is the worst thing to come from The Killers, but honestly, I'd say it's the most forgettable. It's not remembered for being awful, it wasn't as standalone single or a bonus track, just clumped in towards the back of Sawdust, in the part where the covers, remixes and live tracks are. And it doesn't really surprise me that it was put there of all places, as it really isn't a song that anyone needs to rush out and listen to.
74: A Crippling Blow
Eh, this song exists. I get why people like it, but I just don't care for it. It doesn't help that I love Tidal Wave and Forget About What I Said, the other 2 Day & Age bonus tracks, so I end up just forgetting this song really exists.
73: Tyson Vs Douglas
Another song that has fallen on me quite a bit. When I was recently re-listening to Wonderful Wonderful, I honestly just gave up on trying to enjoy this song. There's some great lyrics in the song, but it feels kinda like a generic pop-rock song that feels very out of place on Wonderful Wonderful, and what is up with that awful vocal effect on the chorus? This song hasn't held us very well for me.
72: Shot at the Night
This song isn't quite as low as I would have had it in the past. Although it is still easily my least favourite of the 2 greatest hits OG songs, I am starting to appreciate the song more, especially as I'm growing to appreciate The Desired Effect more, and I definitely tell that both this and Just Another Girl were pivotal in the creation of TDE
71: Andy, You're a Star
I think the reason this song is so low for me is that it just gets outclassed by Everything Will Be Alright. Both are slow ballads with a strong vocal filter, but this one just doesn't have anywhere near as much in the way of real emotion, and I just prefer other songs more. I wouldn't say I dislike this song, but it is definitely my least favourite Hot Fuss song.
70: Here With Me
The lowest ranking Battle Born song is Here With Me. I honestly don't this song as much as some do, and while I don't like that cellphone lyric at all, I'd say that the saving grace of this song is it's 2nd verse. But even then, as a whole, I don't consider Here With Me to be the prime rib of Battle Born.
69: Neon Tiger
Over time, this song has kinda staled on me. And honestly, I think that Imploding the Mirage was the final nail in the coffin for me. One of the things that I initially really liked about Neon Tiger is the way that it painted imagery in my head, but honestly after ITM came along and did it much better, the flaws of Neon Tiger were drawn out pretty quickly. Not an awful song by any means, but it hasn't really aged all that well.
68: Be Still
ANOTHER HOT TAKE INCOMING! I do get why Be Still is a fan favourite, but this song's Achilles heel is that drum beat that starts during the 2nd verse that just feels really out of place, and it doesn't help that it's one song before Battle Born, and comes right after From Here On Out, a song that I do actually really like, and will explain when we get to it.
67: Carry Me Home
I don't dislike this song, but I do honestly find it kinda forgettable. It's not really a song that stands out in any area in particular, meaning this song just kinda floats around my favourites list, and although I initially had it a bit higher, I rarely ever actively seek out the song, I can see why it was left off of Battle Born,
66: Somebody Told Me
Honestly, I still do like Somebody Told Me, and I will jam out to it when it comes on, but really, there's just songs that I like better. Maybe it's because this song kinda just feels a little like Mr. Brightside part 2, but still, I do like this song, and the only reason it's coming in at 66 is because there are 65 songs I like more.
66: Under the Gun
In 66 is another "jam out" type song, and honestly, I'd say that Under the Gun and Somebody Told Me are both similar enough that they are practically interchangeable, but the reason I put this a spot higher is mainly because I guess I haven't heard it as much, so I'm haven't gotten slightly sick of it.
64: Money on Straight
Money on Straight is one the few Wonderful Wonderful era songs that has actually grown on me, and although it's only at 65, it's higher than over half of Wonderful Wonderful, which should say something. There's just something about this song I find so tranquil and exotic, and although I don't revisit it often, it's always a pleasant surprise when it comes up on shuffle.
63: On Top
Less than a month ago, I would have said that this is my least favourite song on Hot Fuss. But it has honestly kinda grown on me a little, and in the future I could see it being higher, but for now I think that 63 is a pretty safe spot to put it.
62: Move Away
I'm honestly kinda surprised how low this song is, but I guess it just hasn't really aged all that well for me. I like the song, but I have found myself not enjoying it quite as much lately. I do still love the bridge however, and that bridge is definitely one the highlights of Sawdust.
61: Deadlines and Commitments
This song, like a lot of Battle Born, helped me out during a really shitty time of my life, which I'll go into more detail further down the track, but it was during that time period when I came to appreciate this song for what it is. It's not a song I'll visit often, but I do find the song comforting, especially during hard times.
60: Human
Oh boy, another hot take. I initially would have had Human higher, but what really made me like the song less is just how much the vocal melody of the verses reminds me of My List. And honestly, it has the same issues with a lot The Killers' single, they are catchy enough to draw you in, but few of them have much of a lasting impact, and the best singles from this band are the ones that sound more like deep cuts. That being said, I still do enjoy Human, it's just not high on "My List" (There's a reason I quoted My List for this song in particular)
59: Runaways
You want hot takes, well guess what, you're getting a mountain of them today! Honestly, Runaways just hasn't ever been one of the standout tracks on Battle Born. It's hard to really put my finger on, but there's just something about that I never really got. I do like the song, especially the bridge, but it's never really been one of my favourites on Battle Born.
58: Jenny Was a Friend of Mine
Can we get a tally for how many hot takes I have put out so far? The reason Jenny is this low is because I don't visit it outside of the context of Hot Fuss. For me, Jenny is very much an album opener, and it feels like that's where it's biggest strength is, not as much in the song itself. Also, I feel that it's so much better live, and the studio version just doesn't compare very well. Yes, I'm one of the people who thinks that back half of Hot Fuss is better, and I will die on that hill if I have to.
57: The Ballad of Michael Valentine
Another song I initally had higher up, but ended up being lower on the overall list. The most off-putting thing about the song is the delivery of the "But I've got the buzz" line, which really hindered my ability to get into the song for a long time, and while I have come to appreciate the song as a whole, it's not one I intentionally revisit too often.
56: Running Towards a Place
The very first Imploding the Mirage song to make the list is Running Towards a Place. RTAP is probably the most simple song musically on the album, and it doesn't really have too much to keep me into the song. However, the lyrics are great, especially on the bridge, and while this is the lowest ITM song on the list, I still do like the song.
55: Heart of a Girl
Look, I know what lyric you are going to point out to me, and while I do find it off-putting, I think that are also so many great lyrics in this song that outweigh that one lyric. For me however, this song just feels like a big hug, as does a lot of Battle Born, and this is definitely one of the most underappreciated songs in The Killers' discography.
54: Run For Cover
This is honestly one of the songs that me into The Killers. I used to have a pretty complicated history with this band, but this was one of the first songs that I was able to properly appreciate. And while I could rank it higher based on nostalgia alone, I don't often seek it out, and I know that there are many songs I like more. Still a great song though.
53: Joy Ride
One that I've very recently come to appreciate is Joy Ride. One of the biggest reasons that I have been able to really enjoy this song is the bridge, which honestly has some of my favourite lyrics from the band. The rest of the song is good, but that bridge is definitely the star of the show.
52: Prize Fighter
Of the 2 Battle Born bonus tracks, I'm definitely more fond of Prize Fighter. Although there's a few random lyrics that are kinda weird, it's also such a unique song in their discography, and I really love the confidence in Brandon's voice in this song.
51: Wonderful Wonderful
Sitting just short of my top 50 is Wonderful Wonderful. Unfortunately, this song hasn't aged as well as I would have like it to. I think it's a very experimental song, and the song gives me strong AFI vibes, which I love, but this used to be a 20 song for me, but here we have another victim of Imploding the Mirage coming along and revealing its flaws. I still like the song, there's just others I like more.
50: Show You How
The first entry into my top 50 is Show You How, and I'm honestly kinda shocked it made it this high. It's a song that has grown a lot on me recently, and although it's a little on short side, it packs quite a bit into 2 and a half minutes.
49: All the Pretty Faces
Another song I am surprised how high it ended up. ATPF has crept up on me a fair bit over the past few weeks, and given that I never really gave this song a proper chance for quite a fair bit, I'm happy to finally understand the greatness behind this song. There's still a few parts I'm mixed on, but damn, ATPF may have one of the best choruses of any TK song.
48: Fire in Bone
I feel bad putting Fire in Bone down here, but I still do like this song, there's just others I enjoy more. Although I'm still not fussed on those heavily distorted vocals in the 2nd verse, there's also a lot of interesting production choices that I think payed off really well, and I still really like this song.
47: The Rising Tide
It pains me to put The Rising Tide all the way down here, as this used to be a top 10 song for me, but over time, it just hasn't held up quite as well as I'd like it to. It still slaps, but it's also kinda simple, and it's not a song that you can really build an emotional connection to.
46: Forger About What I Said
I don't get how this didn't make Day & Age but The World We Live In did. I guess maybe because TWWLI sounds musically a bit similar to the overall sound of Day & Age, but IMO, FAWIS is a much more complete song, and it absolutely slaps. It's kind of on the short side, but like what I said about Show You How, it does a lot in that time.
45: Caution
When it first came out, I considered Caution to be the best lead single the band has ever released. However, as we got to hear more of Imploding the Mirage, it kinda fell off as we heard what else the band is capable of. It's still a good song, but remember what I said back at Human? A lot of The Killers' singles can pull you in quickly, but don't often have a lot in the way of staying power.
44: Smile Like You Mean It
A shameful opinion of my past; I once considered this to be the worst song on Hot Fuss. But for the longest time, I was on the verge of getting it, and one day, I finally got it. This is the type of song that I listen to when it's late at night and I'm tired AF, and honestly, it feels great.
43: Goodnight, Travel Well
Here we have the longest song The Killers have released to date (excluding remixes), the grand album closer that is Goodnight, Travel Well. Yet another song that has grown on me, although not quite as much as some songs have. It's a song that I'll often skip on shuffle, but mainly because I need to be in a certain mood to fully enjoy it.
42: Believe Me Natalie
In 42nd place is the underrated gem that is Believe Me Natalie, and honestly, I feel bad putting it all the way down here. It's a song that I have preached for a long time, and I could definitely see myself putting higher in the future, but really, it's just that I love the songs about it slightly more. From here on out, any of these songs could be a contender for my favourites.
41: The Calling
The Calling is one 4 songs on Wonderful Wonderful that I would say I still enjoy. Although WW hasn't aged well at all for me, The Calling still slaps, and I love it when The Killers get a little more experimental.
40: Blowback
When I first heard the acoustic version of Blowback, I wasn't thrilled by it, and was expecting the final version to be the worst on the album. Boy I was wrong. What really sells this song is the outro, which I think definitely may be a major factor to why I wasn't feeling the acoustic version, but really enjoy the final version.
39: From Here On Out
Although this song is super short, I still love it. Like a lot of Battle Born, it helped me a lot during a really dark period of my life, and this was a song that I associated with a certain person, and I devoted lyrics like "Walk that old lonely road in the shadow of a doubt" to him, and while I still very much cared for this person, I took this song as a reminder that everything will be fine for now, and that if he won't properly speak to me, then he'll be the one who ultimately suffers. Sounds like a really odd interpretation, but it works for me.
38: Peace of Mind
Although I can definitely see why this song wasn't included on Sam's Town, I still think it's a really great song, even if it goes on for a little too long. The build-up is beautiful, and I think it cools down into a really great peaceful last few moments.
37: My Own Soul's Warning
Although I don't think Brandon is right when he says that this is the best song he has ever written, It's still a great song, and a beautiful bombastic album opener. I'd say that the only reason this song isn't higher is similar to Jenny, it feels very much like an opener, and not a standalone track, but it does work as a better standalone than Jenny, and also a better opener, so that's why I'm putting it here.
36: Mr. Brightside
Seriously, do I even need to talk about this song? This song has the power to make British people lose their fucking shit no matter the situation, and even hardcore fans of the band still love this song. I know some might find it kinda sacrilegious to put this down here, but really, I just like the other songs that little bit more.
35: Tidal Wave
When preparing for this list, I did not expect Tidal Wave to be this high up. But honestly, it has grown on me a lot recently, and I think it's a really underrated song that just doesn't get enough attention. Day & Age has some great bonus tracks, and it's a shame that this or Forget About What I Said didn't make the final cut.
34: For Reasons Unknown
The very first Sam's Town song to make the list is For Reasons Unknown. The main reason I would consider this to be the weakest Sam's Town track is due to it being one the most simple musically, and the weakest lyrics. But still, I don't think Sam's Town has a single bad song, and if this is rock bottom, then you've got one heck of an album in front of you.
33: My God
I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw that there was going to be a song titled "My God" and instantly freaked out. But hey, everything turned out alright, and we ended up with this stunning collaboration with Weyes Blood that shows off her impressive vocals on the bridge before breaking into one of the most exhilarating choruses the band has ever concocted.
32: Rut
The highest Wonderful Wonderful song on the list is Rut, and I'm sure many of you may be confused at why I consider this to be the best on the album. Of all the Tana related songs on the album, this is the only one that actually showcases the issues and creates some sort of sympathy, whereas songs like Life to Come and Some Kind of Love just feel like generic "faux-empowerment" songs filled with hollow sentiments. It's also worth noting that Rut has the strongest lyrics of any song on the album, and it's the only song on the album which has actually grown on me with time.
31: Imploding the Mirage
The last song before my top 30 is Imploding the Mirage, the beautiful closing track to the album of the same name. Although completely unlike any album closer the band has put out in the past, I think that it this song works really well. It neatly ties together entire album not with a huge bombastic song, but a simple, catchy tune that sums up everything so great album the album. The finals stop of the journey of the album is one that is sure to put a smile upon your face.
30: Losing Touch
For some reason that I honestly don't remember, I used to HATE this song. These days, I consider it be one of the best songs on the album, and somehow this isn't even their best album opener. It combines the synth and the world elements of Day & Age to create a soaring album opener that I just couldn't get behind for a long time. If you haven't ever really given this song a proper chance, please do so, this is a song that I could see being much higher up this list in a few months.
29: Everything Will Be Alright
Up next is the most divisive song on Hot Fuss, Everything Will Be Alright. Although there are many of us who consider this to be one of the best Hot Fuss songs, it's also a song that never does will in survivor polls, pretty much always being the first one to be voted off. And I can see why. If you listen to The Killers for danceable bops like Mr. Brightside and Somebody Told Me, you're going to be disappointed with this song, but this is honestly a brilliant album closer that ends the album on a very odd, but also beautiful note.
28: I Can't Stay
Up next is one of the most unique songs in The Killers' discography, I Can't Stay, for the longest time, I've wanted them to do more in the vein of this song, and the closest we've really gotten since if Still Want You, a solo Brandon Flowers song, plus the 2nd verse of When the Dreams Run Dry. This is a sound I think that they could do a lot more with, and it kinda upsets me that it may be the end of this sound that has a lot of potential to work well with this band's sound.
27: Uncle Jonny
I get why people might think this is the worst song on Sam's Town, but I also think this song gets a lot of unnecessary hate. Uncle Jonny is a very rough, guitar driven song that explodes into the same brilliant outros that Sam's Town is packed with, and there is no way that I can call this song the dead weight tacked onto the album.
26: Tranquilize
Up next is Tranquilize, the first song on Sawdust, featuring Lou Reed. You probably wouldn't guess it, but Brandon Flowers and Lou Reed work surprisingly well together, with vocals that feel passionate and dramatic paired with vocals that are a little more down to earth.
25: Battle Born
In 25th place is the magnificent album closer that is Battle Born. Although this song does have one of my least favourite lyrics (The "Boys have gone soft/girls have grown wild" line), everything else is brilliant. Reminds me of a Jimmy Eat World album closer, which for those of you who may not know, JEW make stellar album closers, and the closing track is pretty much always one of the best songs on the album.
24: Sweet Talk
Sweet Talk may just be Brandon's best vocal performance to date. It's a track that delivers soaring vocals on top of some great lyrics, and overall, this song is a fucking beast. There's a reason this song is such a fan favourite, and also, another song that took me a while to really get into. You make a whole album of "Great songs that u/RazorBlood6 couldn't get into forever"
23: My List
The next Sam's Town on my list is "My List". Honestly, this song just fits perfectly into Sam's Town. It feels like the perfect slow song to be the calm before the storm that is This River is Wild, but also feels like a companion piece to Bones in a way, as both deal with relationships, with Bones being the more sexual song, and My List tackling romanticism. The two songs fit together perfectly, and from these two songs onwards, the rest of Sam's Town just flows so damn well (not to say the rest didn't, this is just on a whole other level).
22: Midnight Show
The climax of Hot Fuss, AKA Midnight Show is up next. This is the type of song to really bring out all the negatively inside of you. It's the perfect manifestation of one's dark side, and I'm sure all of us feel a little bit more demonic when listening to this song. There's a reason why I consider the 2nd half of Hot Fuss better to be the first, and this is but one shining example of why I think that it is.
21: Just Another Girl
This might be an odd pick to have this high up, but here we are. Just Another Girl is a song that is able to perfectly deliver the feelings of being unable to effectively move on from a failed relationship, and come on, surely you have found yourself in a situation at least somewhat similar to this at least once in your life? This is the perfect song for not being able to move on.
20: Lightning Fields
Kicking off the top 20 is Lightning Fields, and although ITM has only been out for such a short amount of time, I'm already calling this the most underrated song on it. Collaborations can often feel really forced, but this feels entirely natural, and if anything, feels like the perfect sequel to Goodnight, Travel Well, especially after so many years have passed.
19: A Matter of Time
Speaking of underrated songs, here's A Matter of Time. One of the strongest songs lyrically on Battle Born, as well as one of the band's best bridges, this can only add up to greatness. There's so much great going on throughout this song, and the only reason I could think of that people wouldn't care about this song is because it's in between 2 unpopular songs on Battle Born.
18: When You Were Young (+Enterlude)
When You Were Young is the song that feels like just a breath of fresh air. It's a song that you can listen to and escape your surroundings and just feel positive. Even without Enterlude at the start of it, it's still a damn brilliant song, and even if I think it's bottom half of Sam's Town, just look at all the songs that I've put this song higher than on this list. At this point, all the songs are pretty much masterpieces, and it's just which ones are slightly less masterpieces.
17: Leave the Bourbon on the Shelf
The highest non-studio album song on this list is Leave the Bourbon on the Shelf. There's just something I love about this song. Maybe it's the overall mode of anger, frustration and disappointment that lingers in the air of this song, which Brandon somehow delivers so well.
16: Flesh and Bone
One of the band's most powerful album openers, coming in next is Flesh and Bone. If anything, this song should have been released as a single, I reckon it would been very successful. While the entire song is great, that outro is absolutely transcendent. And somehow, I still don't consider this to be the best album opener the band has ever created.
15: Change Your Mind
Here we have a pick that probably won't be popular, but hear me out. The strongest part of Change Your Mind is the raw emotion that is present in both the delivery and lyrics. Sure it may not be the most bombastic song of their career, but it sure is a song that can hit hard emotionally.
14: The Way It Was
Speaking of emotion, here we have The Way It Was, which may just be one of the saddest songs the band has ever written. This is a song that is carried with its emotional lyrics, and sure it's not exactly a danceable song, but sometimes you want more than just a catchy hook, and this song sure delivers in the emotional department.
13: A Dustland Fairytale
3 emotional songs in a row! A Dustland Fairytale is up next, and honestly, when I first became a fan of this band, I thought that this was one of their most overrated songs. That opinion fortunately changed pretty quickly, as I finally got why people loved it so much. Somehow, this isn't even the best song on the album IMO.
12: Bones
I did talk about Bones a little while back where I talked about My List, so I'm not gonna repeat myself too much. If I have to say something however, it would be this: THAT FANTASTIC HORN CRESCENDO!
11: When the Dreams Run Dry
Sitting just outside of my top 10 is When the Dreams Run Dry. The climax of Imploding the Mirage is a fantastic one that feels like a journey. It's a song where the little things just make the entire song. Whether it's a simple lyric or a new instrument subtly added to the mix, everything just feels so great about this song.
10: All These Things That I've Done
The first entry into my top 10 shouldn't require much in the way of introduction. You all know and love this song, and you probably scream out the lyrics every single time it comes on. Of every song on Hot Fuss, I think it's the one that pushed the most boundaries, while still staying in the ballpark of the album, but at the same time, showcasing the band's willingness to grow.
9: This is Your Life
9th place goes to This is Your Life. This song is a very simple and upbeat song, but there's just so much to love about it. Whether it's the tribal sounding backing vocals, the passionate vocal delivery, or the relatable lyrics, This is Your Life is one of the true gems of The Killers' discography.
8: Sam's Town
We have made it to what I would consider the greatest album opener the band has ever created, an opener to a masterpiece of an album. This song is kinda different to a lot of the album, being a largely synth-driven song, that eventually leads into the heartland rock style of the rest of the album. This song sets the scene with a vibe of dissatisfaction, but also with the subtle feeling that things may get better. It establishes many of the central themes of the album, while also establising the beginning of a sound that is different from the band had previously done in the past.
7: Dying Breed
Up next we have Dying Breed. In the lead-up to Imploding the Mirage, this was the song that I truly felt optimistic that this album would be a great one when it was leaked on instagram. Dying Breed is a fantastic song that I'd argue has the best bridge of any Killers song to date, one of their best outros, lyrics that are comforting, yet powerful and descriptive, all that adding up to a song that I think is an absolute masterpiece.
6: Miss Atomic Bomb
Up next is a song that I never disliked, but has grown heaps on me. I talked about Battle Born helping me through a rough time earlier, but here's where I wanna go into a little more detail. Last year, I was in a terrible mental state, and the nail in the coffin for me was when I found that my best friend was ghosting me, lying to me, and was talking about me behind my back. It didn't help that the last time we had talked to each other in person, we seemed to have been able to put down any barriers and just be completely open with each other. This song reminds me of him, and our friendship that was like a flash of energy, going out as quickly as it came. It was merely a flash of light, but it was beautiful. The 2 of us still talk to each other, and the dust cloud has settled a bit, but it's nothing compared the atomic bomb that it once was. That is why I have grown to absolutely love this song.
5: Bling
Up next is Bling. This is a song that paints beautiful landscapes in the listeners head with it's lyrics. You can just picture everything that Brandon is singing about, and if anything, seems to detail the fall from grace, and losing one's way in life, with the ambition of eventually making it, but not really getting there. This is a song that feels like a quest into the desert, with the ambition of finding one's self, carried by Brandon's enthusiastic persona, in order to create something beautiful.
4: Why Do I Keep Counting? (+Exitlude)
If we're talking about growers, then we gotta talk about Why Do I Keep Counting. I never disliked this song, but it has only grown with time. These days, I consider it to be among the greatest songs the band has ever written, and honestly, this song very well could be higher, songs 6 through 2 are pretty much interchangable. There's something so amazing about this song that just makes me feel incredible things when listening to it. It feels like the culmination of everything that has happened over the past few songs, and then asking for the answers to the questions that have been asked on the journey that is Sam's Town.
Oh, and let's not forget about Exitlude, which may just be among the most beautiful album closers ever created. I'm honestly getting emotional just thinking about these songs while writting this. WDIKC and Exitlude come together to create one hell of a finale, and honestly, although I generally consider them both to be one song, either of them on their own could fit in 4th place just as well as them together.
3: Spaceman
The highest non-Sam's Town song on this list is Spaceman. One of the reasons that I hold this song in such high regard is because about a year ago, I was honestly really suicidal. and this was a song that helped me out during those times. But even putting that aside, this song still utterly slaps. We have one of Brandon's best vocal performances, as well as a stellar performance from Ronnie, combined with some brilliant synths that create a brilliant atmosphere. Damn I love this song, and somehow there's still 2 songs that I consider better.
2: Read My Mind
If you were to find a song by The Killers that has the combined highest score of being loved by fans, loved by the general public, and actually being good, this would probably be it. Brandon has said numerous times that this is one of the best songs he has ever created, and he isn't wrong. "I never really gave up on breaking out of this 2-star town, I got the green light, I got a little fight, I'm gonna turn this thing around" is among my favourite song lyrics ever, and if anything, this song encapsulated so much of what makes Sam's Town as a whole such a masterpiece.
Yet somehow, this is only coming in 2nd place.
1: This River is Wild
We have finally made it. The greatest song The Killers have ever written, This River is Wild. I'm sure there are many of you who would have seen this coming from a mile away, but only with good reason am I putting it here. Here we have a song that showcases everything that Sam's Town is about. The lyrics are focused on the central themes of "making it" and finding one's self, but also the fall down. It's a song that carries the passion of finally being able to make it, before inevitably falling. This River is Wild is the epic climax of Sam's Town that absolutely delivers on every single front. We have yet another one of Brandon's best vocal performances, coupled with several of the best lyrics the band has ever written, and an absolutely brilliant build-up that gives way to slower, softer outro, I don't know how much more great stuff I can say about this song. One of the best songs I have ever heard, and the prime rib of a fucking masterpiece of an album. Holy shit I love this song so much. Words cannot describe just how brilliant I think this song is.

Welp, that's it. I have ranked every single song by The Killers. Remember that this is all just my opinion, and your list will definitely be different from mine, and don't take it personally if a song you like is low of a song you dislike is high on my list. Thanks for reading, I'll see you round.
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2020.09.24 09:54 leeman27534 i feel like KOL would make a really good idle game almost like a direct conversion

TL:DR - this is an idea - not saying it 'should' be done or anything of the sort - i'm a fan of idle games and i've kinda wished for a sort of offline KoL or one that could be done so i could play as much as i wanted without actually having to wait till tomorrow to pick it back up
merely pointed out that as a concept what KoL does with their sort of 'daily content' could also be done as an idle game in a more forced single player format - not necessarily connecting to the actual browser server stuff or our KoL characters at ALL
also mentioned how kol mafia already sort of 'auto plays' the game for you in a way - sort of meshing that whole aspect + the above 'offline disconnected singleplayer done faster than 300~ adventures in 24 hours' sort of thing

and by that i mean just an idle game not an incremental game that's constantly scaling up (well some aspects maybe) - a sort of weird time anomaly could be a good story reason - you're sort of stuck in your own little time loop bubble where you can go back to the beginning of kol's start and sort of 'work your way back up' to modern time kol in a more idle format - instead of actually spending years of time IRL time would progress faster\more wonky in this sort of 'standalone' thing
don't take it as a criticism of KOL or anything - it's just an idea i'm a big fan of idle games and a big fan of kol and idle games usually have a 'reset' mechanic so figured it wouldn't be too off base
and you would lose a lot of the charm and humor of the game doing it like this - but tbh a lot of kol mafia players are doing this already (and a lot of us have done dozens of runs where we've read all the content - fuck even if there was an 'idle' sort of more single player focused offline version not limited to the actual time we'd still play kol)
it'd be sorta more for the people wanting the more long term kol experience in a more compact form - and i'm sure i'm not the only person who's created a multi just to get more kol playing in


but imagine some kol mafia things like setting up macros to auto use and auto fighting in areas: that's essentially sort of an 'idle' kol already but i kinda mean one that can be played indefinitely rather than be limited per day - sorta single player kol lite or something
potentially being able to do stuff like grab quests shop in the mall (obviously not tied to actual kol players) change equipment eat drink (be merry) buy skills and a lot of other stuff while still autofighting: also being able to select sort of your 'reason' for fighting there not unlike kol mafia can - quest related need X item whatever

let's say one 'day' can be 5 minutes (which is pauseable for those trying to get a bunch of daily stuff in or needing to grab quests and whatnot) and say a new adventure or round in combat takes a second (so a decent 300 adv\day when it's fully automated is basically that 5 minute mark) and just like normal kol each 'day' you get base 40 adventures and stuff like food and booze can add more (and be reset at 'rollover') - you won't always be autofighting the entire 'day' and might even have a surplus of adv if you've gotten too many to actually get through in a single day and you're fully automated (presumably long term speed upgrades can change this around)
i'd also like to see some of the 'multiplayer' aspects still be represented too just of course differently - mall basically being 'buy items sort of like the in game stores already do' (and i'd like to knock off a digit for the higher end items like 'limited' time content and items of the month - conversely a 'mr a' would only sell for 3 million instead of around 30 and that being the base rate for other mr a items)
clan based stuff could be sort of related to the excess resources we all accumulate over a run - instead of just sitting in hangk's maybe combine the two function wise - the more overall item value (auto sell wise) in your storage as well as unused meat the more 'wealthy' your clan is, the more varied the item collection, itoms purchased for the clan, progress made in multiplayer content like the basement stuff the more (and stronger) clannies you can get (potentially opening up stuff like 'bots' to do stuff for you essentially for free - cook food and drink in bulk turn free out of ronin and just 'experimenting' and making different recipes over time for progress towards your achievements if they've got the ingredients doing hobopolis early on (relatively) sucks and is slow but as you do more runs your clan gets more experienced maybe get clannies devoted to doing dungeon dives passively without you potentially providing an idea for 'passive' meat gen (the idea is if you've already got a copy of the gear dropped and say the clan's stockpiled X numbers of that item too to represent the clan members doing the run getting looted up to you start selling the excess - paying for the run itself and extra)

and karma is given per run like normal so you can still perm skills across your character but also maybe a secondary 'run' currency for boosting the idle nature of the game or providing a way of getting some other stuff: 'abilities' like 'auto get quests' 'auto stop when quest complete' 'auto start new quest that's next in the queue' - basically things that as you do more runs you can 'automate' the game even more - eventually working more like those mafia scripts that can do the entire run by themselves or something

but also maybe this secondary run resource (uncle bucks maybe - 10 for a mr a and an itom) could also be used as like access to items of the month or say maybe 'buying' a timed event like crimbo or something (sorta like the idea of like 10-25 runs could be like 15 'days' of crimbo - 25 days basically being two hours of play time and needing to do like crimbo 1 before others or something to that effect)
maybe have this scale up according to the 'trophies' or just achievements (figure they could be 'free') you've gotten overall (and maybe not have as many as kol's got) - basically having 'done' more of the content scales up how often you can get these items
also not sure how to do the items of the month - sorta like the idea of 25 ish runs representing a 'year' so maybe have two runs ish be a month and unlock a new itom after that - kol's been around for like 16 years a 'run' taking around half an hour 25 being a year so depending on how much you'd do it could do almost two years in a single real day (also would maybe like itoms available for say 3 'months' because you're not gonna have enough of this credit to probably get the itoms every 'month' for a while) (also feel like the time logistics i'm getting something wrong but i can't seem to see what it is glossing back over this)

and maybe a third thing just related to overall runs that can help speed things up in general - start doing a new adventure in .95 seconds or whatever and be able to lower the 'day' cycle from 300 seconds to 285 seconds - not a thing meant to improve what's available in a run like karma or to improve automation so it goes from sort of stumbling around with kol mafia auto fight all the way up to it automatically doing most aspects of a run for you letting it truly be 'idle', but instead being a thing to speed up overall progress of the game - scaling up how quick you can do runs mechanically speaking while permed skills and good usage of turns and whatnot will speed up quest doing itself

i feel like for a not super long term idle game this could be pretty okay - we'd basically be able to 'catch up' to current content in a week and a half of 'hard' going at it even if we went from like start the 'real' clock back at 2004 - and that's just basically unlocking content not even entirely covering how many runs that'd take to get there compared to getting say all the skills permed and all the itoms gotten and all the content done

i think it's a solid kinda concept: still probably a few 'kinks' to work out (like you could pause the 'day' timer - let's say you could also do extra 'runs' within a month or something - it'd slow down overall time based unlocking progress but allow you to get extra karma and 'second ascension resource' in to get say an item of the month you really want but don't want to have to buy in the mall later - i'd like to have the secondary ascension resource eventually be enough to get an itom every 'month' and probably then some, with enough 'content' explored but that'll probably be quite a while - trading off 'real time' progress for being able to still get it early on seems like a good compromise - on the other hand given i kinda wanted the sort of time displacement option to revisit certain limited events potentially one could just go back later if needed
there's also the aspect of actual stuff changing with the times: not sure if i really wanted to go that in depth - like sure it might fit a sort of 'reliving kol's history' to be able to go back to NS11 and have skills have different effects and whatnot than they do now: but at the same time that would probably be a pretty big PITA and it might be just a lot simpler if the current sort of 'style' was done for 'then' too (so like earthquake event changing skill mp values might still happen as an 'event' but don't actually change anything - it's just represented as a point in time)

of course even if the kol people thought it was a good idea and wanted to implement it it'd probably be a PITA: i figure a lot of it wouldn't be 'that' hard - but sort of managing the timeframe of when some items are available and whatnot might be a PITA (basically 14 years worth of extra items and content would be in the 'idle' game but locked out of actually getting access to and unlock intermittenly
and maybe there'd be changes: like 4 runs in a 'month' instead of two, slowing down the overall progress towards sort of 'current' day but also giving you a lot more time to get those perms in and more access towards the special challenge paths (they last 3 months so instead of just six runs it's now 12 - actually maybe we could bump that to 4 months since there's no challenge path then a month of crimbo - not like it actually has to fit the literal calendar but that would also delay the 'yearly' progress - also with the whole pausing the month sort of thing maybe wouldn't work with crimbo well - some of the stuff's a little too strong to stockpile nigh endless amounts of it if desired)
also i keep saying 'runs' like it directly correlates to overall 'time' - probably should've stopped that a while back - sorta generalizing that if a 'run' is around 30 mins (averaging six days) then a month could be around 2X or 4X that (4x being 24 ish days and being a tad closer) - maybe these 3-4 month 'chunks' will auto run through but to move to the next you've got to select it (or just have the option to auto move on selected) - if we've got say 100 days in a 'season' we might get to 100 then have the option for 'extra' runs or something then a half a season crimbo that doesn't get an 'extra' (but might be buyable later or something - potential time displacement available for when you've gotten to the 'end' of the current time and still have bonus 'uncle bucks' or whatever we'd call the secondary ascension resource having bought all the automation stuff as well as had enough runs to get the itom gear) and that's a 'year' - first season is all the new year itoms available for the first time then the first 3 months and season 2 and 3 are the yearly itoms still but 4 new itoms per month (so new year content and jan feb mar then 'april may june july' 'august sept oct nov' ish then dec being the 'crimbo' month)
and of course once you get to the end you can still do content it just doesn't scale up the 'real' time (as there's no spring 2021 ready or whatever) - maybe you can invest like half of the uncle bucks you'd get from a given challenge run in standard for extra karma at that point or the 'at the time' rewards (so it's not just the latest challenge that's repeatable for bonus karma - though this current one's a doozy)
hell maybe not just a single run going 'back in time' - maybe you can end up trying to develop a time gate (was that a itom) where you could go back to a certain 'real time' date and basically play the game from there: any 'future' itoms and skills are locked just as like 2 year old stuff would be in standard but it would allow you to set up sort of long term 'current run bonus karma\uncle bucks' grinds instead of needing to spend more uncle bucks than you might be able to make back for repeating a specific thing 'in run' - the downside is unless you've gotten through the 'this idle version's specific content to not just develop a timegate but also needing a timegate in the past as well - you'd have to wait through the time again - go back to 2015 after you've gotten to 2020 - you're gonna need to go through the entire 5 years again instead of just that 'ascension' being located at that time

the only sort of 'new' content would be basically the stuff related to the screwed up time sort of thing - could be a sort of 'meta story' for this version of kol - having ascended and seemingly gone right back to the same timeframe even if it's worldline is different (paths) so many times with so many people time's gone crazy and you're stuck in your own little time bubble or something (sorta story excuse for it cutting away from a single player yet also mmo ish sort of dealio to a thing where a day can pass in minutes) - there could still be text and story and whatnot just not quite to the scale of KOL - maybe we'd actually have a good reason story wise to ascend - sort of help build up these sort of time related potential possibilities in 'beyond the pale' where you might augment your very being to experience an even greater acceleration of time and what you can do (less time taken in a 'day' sort of accelerated getting into a new adventure and actual fighting and being able to 'automate' stuff being equivalent to your (in game) behavior and actions actually matching the accelerated process (as well as just doing the same thing a hundred times - yeah yeah i know do x then y for z result)

and progress towards this sort of vahalla time based upgrades is increased for the time specific events - doing a run is a little credit but the one time events (ish) are a bigger deal - witnessing events like overall game changes or crimbo which defies the in game calendar or whatever is very important to understanding this new situation (or whatever) so potentially a 'kol timeline' is sort of a meta ascension reset allowing you to get other stuff specific to this game (and potentially it's idle nature) - upgrade your temporal capabilities in general maybe unlock perks that can help adventuring somehow - like a small chance that if an item didn't drop can sort of 'roll again' sort of like the slimeling would be an interesting sort of use of a temporal anomaly or sort of 'overhealed' health or mana can sort of potentially rollover as bonus health or mana in between fights (to a limit - not like i'm suggesting you could use a 1k healing item at max health and get 1k extra health - more like 'maybe' the overhealed regen from the last adventure counts for the next one - probably not stacking or could serve some other purpose like leveling up some sort of 'meta' skill level - healing extra hp provides a % health increase skill exp that's not a perk and might have tiers that provide other perks like base regen - leveling mostly myst characters might mean your overall character's a better mage with like a temporal based passive % bonus to myst or spell damage or whatnot - basically the idea is for a sort of representation of growth not just as an adventurer in a given run but as a sort of 'soul' stuck in a wonky temporal situation)
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2020.09.24 06:28 memesandcommunism LETTER TO REDDIT CEO

Open Letter to Steve Huffman and the Board of Directors of Reddit, Inc– If you believe in standing up to hate and supporting black lives, you need to act
Open Letter to Steve Huffman and the Board of Directors of Reddit, Inc – If you believe in standing up to hate and supporting black lives, you need to act
Dear Steve,
On June 1, you shared a letter on Reddit’s blog “Remember the Human – Black Lives Matter”. In this letter, you claim “as Snoos, we do not tolerate hate, racism, and violence, and while we have work to do to fight these on our platform, our values are clear.”
As of today, neither you nor any other Reddit admins have shared this letter anywhere on reddit.com. However, the response to this message was swift on Twitter, where you were rightfully labeled as hypocritical based on your long and well-recorded history of defending racism and white supremacy on this site.
Among the many responses was this message from former CEO of Reddit, Ellen Pao.
I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all day long
Many others shared links and screenshots of your past statements saying “Open racism and slurs are fine to post on Reddit”.
The problem of Reddit’s leadership supporting and providing a platform for racist users and hateful communities has long been an issue. Nearly six years ago, dozens of subreddits signed the original open letter to the Reddit admins calling for action. While the Reddit admins acknowledged the letter and said it was a high priority to address this issue, extremely little has been done in the intervening years.
On June 5, you shared this update on /Announcements, Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here. In the post, you stated that there is a need for continued adjustments of Reddit’s content policy to address racism and that this remains a priority. These continued statements that you hear us, that this is a priority, or that you are working on it are not enough. It has been five years since your return as CEO and this still remains Reddit’s most glaring problem.
Steve, if you and Reddit genuinely care about the values of standing up to racism and hate, then you need to back it up with real action. As moderators on this website who have dedicated countless hours to keeping this site running, we call on Reddit to take the following steps:
At /AgainstHateSubreddits, we have laid out the many failures of Steve time and again to stand up to white supremacy on this site time and time and time again.
With a website with the impact of Reddit on the broader conversations being held in communities around the world, this website needs real leadership and real action.
We hope that Reddit will not just share empty platitudes — but will take a meaningful stand against hate, and take these recommendations to heart.
This letter is co-signed by more than 200 300 350 430 550 650 800 communities representing well over 200 hundreds of millions of subscribers:
If your subreddit is not listed and would like to sign on, please leave a comment below
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2020.09.23 02:31 Kirchetorte So wait, is Demisexual a part of asexual? Or is it adjacent? Also story time.

I’m honestly not aware of a lot of extra classifications, sexualities, etc. I actually had to look up what “demisexual” meant before posting, just to be sure. I sorta found myself here because of funny memes and a lot of really cool sub members I’d seen in other posts, so uh...Hello everyone! The first part of this post is the question above, where does demisexual fit in? Is it a classification on its own? Or is it part of the asexual umbrella? Or is it something like aromantic? I’m not even sure what all entails the last one either, haha! I haven’t, nor still do I, had a burning need to classify myself or attach labels, I’m me, that’s just about it, but if I can find further relatable reading experiences or connect with cool people, I’m totally down to find out.
So, the general bit about me...I’m 34, male, divorced now. Growing up, I had very few girlfriends, 21 years of no sex or regular dating, nothing too serious when I did, until I met my now ex wife and her best friend. That was the first time I felt “love” for someone. Not platonic love like for my family, but what felt like true love. I devoted myself to her, and it felt so right. Sex came natural, and it was PERFECT, we were active 2 times a day for months when living together, and then once every other day when the honeymoon effect wore off, but I was so attracted to only her, it was nuts. After we married and settled down, things started to go completely off the rails. She became manipulative, gaslighting me constantly, and eventually straight up to physical and mental abuse. I was heartbroken in so many ways, I almost died several times.
After picking myself back up and going off of pure survival adrenaline, I managed to regain some confidence and tried dating again. Things went well, I met some great women, but...I couldn’t find myself having that same attraction I did with my wife. I chalked it up to me working through things still, but even now, being over her, I still feel no desire to just go out and find a date, or even just mess around. About a year back, for the first time in my life, I forced myself to go out and be a bit of a man-ho, and...Nothing. I couldn’t feel into it with people I didn’t know or love, I couldn’t even get off during the act. After sex, I just felt...hollow. I knew that wasn’t me, so I deleted any dating apps, and pretty much cut ties with any hookups. I haven’t been intimate ever since, and...I’m honestly fine with it, haha!
An awesome friend I have asked me outright if I’m “asexual”, because, well...She’s drop dead gorgeous and I’m not making any moves or doing any typical “guy stuff” towards her, and it sounds so hokey trying to convince her I’m just not built like that, haha! We have some clear chemistry, but she has her own life going on and I’d never want to interfere in that, even without my unknown sexuality quirks. If I had a chance to make it work, MAYBE, because she’s amazing and I’d be lucky, but even still...Aaaagh, I dunno...Could she be right though? Am I asexual? Partially so or Demi, I guess? Anyhow, this has gone on long enough, and I thank anyone for reading if you have made it this far. I appreciate you all, whether I’m part of the community formally or not.
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2020.09.22 22:30 Alprovan Every Vote is Going to Count In Order to Send Trump Home, or to Prison, Whichever Comes First. Your Vote is Important!

Every vote counts this election, even if you live in a red state, as I do.
If Joe Biden is elected and if at least four seats are flipped to the Democrats, the repairs to this nation and it’s people can begin.
Mail-in voting is the key to turning out more votes, but it is going to take planning on behalf of everyone to get those ballots in on time. If you are interested in voting by mail, in most states, you will have to request ballots be mailed to you. Requesting mail ballots information can be found by visiting your local County election website.
I live in northwest Georgia. I have voted by mail for years, as I am disabled, and because I am disabled, I only have to request one time to have every relative ballot sent to me for an entire election year, including primary, runoff, special, and final election ballots. Otherwise, I would have to request each ballot event separately.
Georgia amazingly, despite it’s love and devotion by it’s leaders to Trump, has decided to allow any and all registered voters to vote by mail, with no excuses demanded, despite being a red state and governed by a former Secretary of State who did everything he could to fix an election that he did win, barely.
So, you can download a ballot request in Georgia up to 180 days before an electoral date. The ballot request must be faxed or mailed to the county elections office. No fax machine? No problem. I have never failed to receive a ballot requested.
https://faxzero.com/
Ballots in my county are mailed out quite early and I make sure to mail it back in almost as fast as I get them. Unfortunately, in Georgia, the voter must affix the return postage for the ballot and they are very picky about following every instruction, including putting the ballot in a special envelope inside the return envelope, etc. - and signing a statement, blah blah blah. No postage, if required, rejected. No signature for comparison? Rejected.
So...be sure to follow those directions, to make your vote count!
Now...what is it looking like, pertaining to the states that are going to allow voting by mail?
Here’s a quick rundown;
If you live in the following FIVE states, you likely are very familiar with mail-in voting, because ballots are automatically mailed to every registered voters;
CA, CO, NJ, NV, AND UT
Thus, the list has grown to nine states that will automatically send out ballots to every registered voter;
CA, CO, DC, HI, NJ, NV, OR, UT, VT, AND WA
These NINE states (and DC) will automatically send out mail-in ballot REQUESTS to every registered voter;
CT, DE, IL, IA, MA, MD, NM, OH, AND WI
In the following TWENTY-FIVE states, you may, all by your lonesome, request an application for an absentee ballot, citing the Covid-19 virus, or it may be that the rules have been relaxed so that no reason for requesting a ballot is required;
AL, AK, AR, AZ, FL, GA, ID, KS, KY, ME, MI, MO, MN, MT, NC, ND NE, NH, OK, PA, RI, SD, VA, WV, AND WY
And finally, and unfortunately, if you reside in the following states, Covid-19 is not a valid reason for requesting an absentee ballot, thus forcing their residents to vote in person, unless something changes VERY soon;
IN, LA, MS, NY, SC, TN, AND TX
I cannot imagine why New York is on that last list. That is a blue state.
But looky here – at least seventeen red states are opening the doors for mail-in voting. It doesn’t come without a little extra effort on the part of the voter, but it can be done. That’s at least a little progress, isn’t it?
Real progress will come whenever we can get on our computers or phones and securely log onto a voting website, satisfactorily identify ourselves, and cast our votes. That can be done easily and with present day technology. How do I know it? I recently renewed my driver’s license and my auto registrations online. My identity was easy to verify and it was required for both.
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2020.09.22 21:29 AbundantOverflow Be Wary of His Pickmeisha Mother/Sister(s)

Women are often told that the way a man treats his mothesister is how he will treat his girlfriend/wife. And while there is some merit to this, we need to pay attention to whether he treats her this way because she loves him unconditionally (even when he is unkind, abusive, disrespectful, lazy, etc) simply because she is male-centered and possibly a Pick Me. Sometimes the reason a man is not married is because he is in an emotionally entangled or financially intertwined relationship with a female family member that does not leave sufficient room for a romantic relationship with a woman.
I have dated a few men who seemed to have "great" relationships with their mothers and/or sisters when really, these women just enabled them to emotionally abuse the women they dated. These women worshipped at the altars of these men and made the men believe they were these once in a lifetime great catches when they were just regular or subpar men. If we disagreed, they'd run to these women for advice/support and they'd endorse whatever he said, even if he was dead wrong. And I have observed that men often expect the same level of devotion, admiration, and self-sacrifice from me that those women give him even though it's unmerited. I remember hearing "Well my mom would do this for me..." or "My sister always cooks for me..." as some type of indication I should be doing what they do.
Related, I've dealt with a couple of situations where men were surrogate husbands to their single mothers or sisters. In the early stages of a relationship, this is tricky because you think it's honorable that he goes out of his way to take care of female family members. But then you realize that you will always play second fiddle to them either because he sucks at setting boundaries, the women are manipulative, or both. Pickmei-ish male-centered mothers/sisters have been petty, passive aggressive, and flat out nasty to me when they felt whatever gravy train they had with this man (money, attention, perceived ownership, etc) was threatened by the possibility of him being serious with me. Or he just let them constantly encroach on the relationship in disrespectful/unhealthy/dysfunctional ways and of course, I was the terrible evil outsider for even hinting that a boundary would be appropriate.
I now pay close to attention to how well a man sets boundaries with family members (while treating them well) and whether he has ever been held accountable as an adult by those women he claims to respect and love so much.
Be sure you'll be the only woman in your relationship before you enter it because if you have a power struggle with his mother or sister, you'll likely lose the battle or lose your sanity in the process of winning it.
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2020.09.21 20:54 foxyfoxfunn HELP with Quarantine Dining Hall situation

EDIT: UCONN HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT TOWERS WILL BE OPENING TOMORROW I have not gotten a response back from the Dean of Students, though even if this did or did not have any impact on that decision, im pretty happy that they're considering these types of things anyway. Thanks guys :)
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Hey guys,
I don't know if any of you have been in quarantine up here at Storrs, but right now Eddy building is having trouble getting to Buckley. Also, I know of some people in North West struggling too.
Me and some of my floormates are writing emails to the Dean of Students for getting accessibile food to people in quarantine. They've already told us to "suck it up" essentially, but I'm writing an email back.
If you are in quarantine and would like to eat better, dm me and I'll CC you. If you were in quarantine, and it was a pain to go to Buckley 3 times a day, dm me and I'll CC you. If you've never been in quarantine but would like help out, dm me and I'll CC
These things need volume. I'd also take any input.
Attached is the email exchange, and the draft of the reply.
➖➖➖Original Email to Dean of Students:➖➖➖
To whom it may concern,
Hello! My name is X and I am a 6th floor resident of Eddy Residence hall. I am writing to address some concerns about the dining hall situation.
As you may know, people who are in quarantine are expected to get their meals from Buckley Dining Hall on East Campus. The girls on 6th floor Eddy have had 2 weeks to grow accustomed to this. Now that there is a second two week quarantine (that was given the day we were supposed to be let off the first one), it is even harder to get food. I have personally asked people in this building to grab me some dinner from South Dining Hall and leave it outside, or just eat what I have on hand, though now that we are all stuck in the same boat, that is a little more difficult.
Yes, Eddy is within walking distance to Buckley, but that means taking an hour+ out of our day to get our meals, and frankly, I rarely do that. Classes have started to pick up, and taking time to walk to a Covid-contact dining hall, even when most of us have had multiple negative tests, seems uncertain and unnecessary.
One other aspect to consider is that some of my floor-mates have dietary preferences/restrictions that have been harder to maneuver while being limited only to Buckley. One of the girls on my floor is vegan, and attached were her options for today (see bottom). Assuming you have the value plan ($3,010 dollars a semester), and considering the start dates, August 14th to November 20th (98 days); breakfast potatoes, oatmeal hot cereal, and some strudel bites are the daily equivalent to $30.71. Quarantine or not, this should not be acceptable.
I can propose a couple solutions to this; the simplest being something along the lines of an out-door grab and go with pre-made meals from South Dining Hall. This seems doable, but if there are any other ideas that would make things easier, that would be great.
This is on behalf of anyone who's struggling to find time to eat during their quarantines, and I hope a solution can be made.
Thank you,
-6th Floor Eddy
➖➖➖➖Reply from Dean of Students:➖➖➖➖
Dear X
Thank you for reaching out with your concerns about the dining options in Buckley. I am copying my colleague who can address the concerns related to the menu items and dining specific questions.
In terms of the challenges of having one dining unit for students in quarantine this is a decision made in conjunction with our SHaW medical team. Having one location specified for students in quarantine helps to insure that those individuals are not interacting with students not in quarantine. The goal is to keep our campus open and student safety is a priority. I realize this creates challenges for those in quarantine but it is hopefully for a limited period of time.
I am sure Dennis or someone from his team will be in contact soon about your dining specific questions.
Sincerely, Maureen
➖➖➖➖➖➖Drafted Reply:➖➖➖➖➖➖
Hello again,
I appreciate the response back.
Since I have sent the first email, I found out that others in quarantine all over campus are having the same problems, particularly at Northwest and Towers. This is a campus-wide issue, considering that many people (including and not limited to an entire residence building) are sharing the same conflicts. I've gotten word from some people in the North West Residence Halls who have been skipping meals because going out in the cold in this weather isn't a proper idea, especially when all of the dorms on campus are maintaining a modest temperature of 50-60 degrees Fahrenheit. Priorities become keeping warm, especially when a dorm room is the only place people in quarantine are allowed to be (other than the covid-contact dining hall a 20+ minute walk away).
I can guarantee that comparing the amount of people signed up to eat at Buckley and the amount that actually show up are completely disproportionate to the other, more accessible dining halls. There are facts out there that prove people aren't getting enough to eat, and surely not what we're paying for.
There are schools like NYU and many others that have had room delivery service to those who were in quarantine. Though that would be great, that is not what we are asking. We are asking for reasonable food accessibility. Whether that be another building devoted to feeding those in quarantine, or a delivery service, or really anything else, that would be enough. All that I can say is that having only 1 dining hall open for all people in quarantine isn't the solution.
Fact is, since I have been in quarantine for the last two weeks (and looking forward to two more), I have lost roughly 5 pounds. And a girl I know in North West has lost close to 10. Yes, there is a dining hall being provided. Yes, I could choose to get up and make the walk. But I can guarantee the check-ins at Buckley show that a large population of those in quarantine don't.
I asked around, and some people said they only made it to Buckley a few times, they've been so busy. Parents and students are angry their $3000+ is going to waste. I hate to be that person, but Maureen, I'm sure you have a kitchen to walk to. I'm sure your place is warm. If it isn't, then maybe you do understand our perspectives a bit more.
This isn't a fun complaint to make, but many students all over campus are experiencing the same things, and that realization prompted this email exchange.
Once again, I really hope a solution can be made.
-6th floor Eddy et al.
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2020.09.21 05:43 Ecstatic_Debate_7290 Internal struggles with lust

Hi all, I need some advise on how to deal with sexual desires and lust. I’m a single male and I would think I have relatively high sex drive. However, I’ve been practicing mindfulness and I would like to think of myself as a devoted Buddhist. I do daily prayers in the form of heart sutra and pay homage to the three jewels. I seek repentance and giving of merits every night as well. I also took a Bodhisattva vow to strive to end all inexhaustible vexations and delusions. I am aware when I’m feeling lustful, perhaps when I’m out on a tinder date. It’s so hard to let go and I really struggle with this. On many occasions, I can hear internal dialogues in my head telling me to observe the sensation and let it go but it is really hard. (Imagine the classic angel and devil in your head) When I go home, I will have the urge to take a wank but that is also breaking of the Bodhisattva vow. But then if I don’t do it, I can’t get “let go” of the lust. I am aware that this is indeed “suffering” as explained in the sutras and dharma. And not just mentally, bodily suffering in the form of “blue balls” too. Or maybe u should stop using dating apps to avoid running into such situations. But on the flip side, that is a form of aversion as well. Oh dear I can feel the internal struggle and conflict arising in my head again as I’m rambling and typing this. Please help me 🙏🏻 om mani padme hum
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2020.09.20 21:59 unpolishedparadigm Anyone else dropped the ball with a crush? looking for advice or insights from anyone who can relate

So guess I’m just looking for a bit of support and maybe advice if you’ve experienced anything similar, this’ll be a long one, thanks for reading if you choose to 
I met a girl who really made an impression. Coworker, so iffy situation. Everything about her I find endearing. Her kindness, warmth and grace are really something. Just a sense that she really gets what’s going on, it’s hard to express. She was engaging and obviously wanting connection, but I pulled away and now she seems to be less and less interested, and it’s on me 100%
The effect she had on me has been a remarkable shift, before there’s been girls I wanted, but with her, it’s like I want to be someone for her. Its like she cracked a wall of indifference I’ve been building all my life. It’s like I feel like I want to offer her only my best, I want to help her flourish, to discover her as a person. Seeing how far I have to go before I feel like I’d be an asset to her, someone she could lean on, it’s been a process that has made me see myself with a clarity that in some ways has been a rude awakening. I feel deeply accountable for how I make others feel for pretty much the first time I can really remember. See now I’ve been running like hell ever since I lost my dad when I was little, didn’t want to need people who I could lose I suppose, and can’t lose what you never had. I became an intellect who didn’t really want to deal with feelings. My extroverted intuition used to be pointed outwards just hungry for information with the hopes that with enough data I could solve some pattern that would help people. That from my brokenness would come a service that would’ve made my loss worth it. That this act of service would be my redemption. There was a sense of generosity and devotion to me being lost in pursuing every curiosity. The effect was I put the world on my shoulders and it crushed me. Now I see that my head was up my ass, that everything that’s been right in front of me this whole time I’ve neglected, taken for granted, let atrophy. I see now that it’s been my original sin, the deepest character defect, this avoidance. And now I’ve had to watch myself be unable to escape this pattern with her, and fear I’ve let something really good go before it even began. I basically have been either super standoffish or nervously leaning into my ability to be an engaging extrovert around her. I think she knows I’m being fake, knows she has my attention even though I haven’t been open, which strengthens my intuition that we’d be compatible. I’m growing, fast, but I’m still not where I’d like to be to stand in front of her and want to let her begin to see what I keep here under the surface. Each day has been better than the last. I’m becoming kinder, more responsible, more expressive, more creative, more healthy.
While my growth has made me feel hopeful, what’s been really painful is I’m definitely messing this up with her. Distance continues to grow, her impressions of me are becoming more set and less of an open question for her I believe. I’m caught between competing instincts, to be warm, to respect professional distance, to hold back or to begin to explore being more open in a way that’s fully sincere. To be thoughtful about how I interact with her, or to just open my mouth and be spontaneous and carefree. I think I’ve been cold. I was trying to hold her at a distance to give me time to become someone who would benefit her, but I think I’ve only pushed her away. It’s only been a few weeks, but I think she knows she’s on my mind, and suspect she wants less to do with me now instead of more. I wish she could see that I’ve just not wanted her close because I have work to do before I’d feel right inviting her to be a part of my life, but I really think it might be too late I’m trying not to think about it, to heal my life for it’s own sake, to be greatful that she woke me up but not place any expectations on her to be interested in me romantically
Any insights or advice here would be appreciated, especially from you entp’s that have really developed your emotional and relational skills
Thanks for reading
Edit to add: I think I’m just going to accept that it’s done. If I see her and there’s a moment, apologize for being standoffish, that there’s reasons but no excuses that and that I hope she enjoys her job. Want to really demonstrate a commitment to boundaries. If she chooses me she does, if not, well she’s already done so much for me that I owe it to her to make her comfortable and happy with my connection.
Update: after continuing to focus on growth and just being who I want to be really, it hit me like a ton of bricks that I’ve been overthinking the fuck out of this, as a means to avoid what I’ve really been upset and feeling insecure over; my brother and dad just moved to California, and my grandfather just got diagnosed with dementia. I’ve been completely emotionally unavailable because I’ve been overwhelmed.. plus the pandemic plus what’s happening politically, felt totally out of control and a little helpless but COMPLETELY misidentified the root. This is literally as simple as just picking up where we left off, asking her where she’s from and letting it play out. Thanks to all for letting me bounce my brain chatter off you
Update #2: let it be simple and got closer to her today at work. She’s wonderful, undeniably. Warm, caring, mindful. She opened up a bit and gave me enough of the puzzle pieces to piece together a clear sense of where she’s at: tail end of a relationship that isnt cut and dry because they live together, that she’s moving soon. She delicately implied the invitation was open to getting to know her more personally by tactfully signaling she was open to me inviting her to share a meal. I played a little dumb and acted like I missed the signal because I’m honestly not comfortable starting things with her until what she has going on is a little more settled. I don’t think she realizes that I feel pretty strongly about her already, and got the sense that her signaling her being open is coming from an anxiety that I could lose interest if this doesn’t start soon, which isn’t at all the case. I believe in her and know she has what it takes to do things in the right order. I think her soon to be ex is doing a number on her and I think she’s just trying to keep the peace on her way to the exit. By allowing that opening to pass (was pretty difficult) I want to give her the opportunity to feel like she’s handling the situation with honor to her responsibilities, and I want to do the same by honoring the bond she’s had with this other guy. However undeserving he is of her, I want her to be able to see in herself the woman I see without an ounce of self doubt. I owe her that. She’s a girl I can see dating for years and don’t want any degree of shame in how it started to taint what I’d like to build with her. The gift she’s given me is hope which I took action on to earn a sense of confidence and I want to reciprocate that opportunity, even if it means denying my own desires for the time being. It’s more important to me to be a catalyst of her growth than responding to the need I feel to have her close to me right right now. I feel like I’ve waited for quite a while for the right girl to come along, and don’t want to rush the start and compromise the foundation. I’ve also learned the distinction from my experiences between comfort and genuine affection, and want to start things with her on a blank canvas where she’s as clear as I am that this is really what I want
Thanks for reading
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2020.09.20 20:03 LoneWolf1ngIt Nymph Homebrew Race for Mythic Odyssey of Theros

Hello! This is my homebrew race designed for the content in the Mythic Odyssey of Theros Sourcebook. I got around to doing this because I'm planning on limiting the available pleyer races for the campaign I'm running to the Theros races, but found the selection to be slightly limiting. I was actually surprised to see that Nymphs weren't a player race in the book, so voila. Here we are. I used the Theros sourcebook for the race and sub-race descriptions, alignments, and a few spells and features, the player's handbook for some other spells, the monster manual for Dryads, this post from here for many of the features, and thi#Nymph_Traits)s homebrew Nymph page on the Dungeons and Dragons wiki for height and weight. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out, but could use some balancing feedback, because not only will this be my first time running Theros material, it'll be my first time dming for a campaign.
To my understanding, it seems that races for the most part have 4-5 features, so I did my best to match that, but I worry I may be going over that a bit. I'm also still trying to figure out a spell to give to Lampads for their Innate Spellcasting as they were absent from the post I borrowed from, and the sourcebook only had two innate spellcasting spells for them. I was looking for 1st level spell slot spells they would be able to use at level 3 that would thematically fit with them. additionally I also think I should probably do away with each sub-races respective skill proficiency boost, but I'm still a bit hesitant to do so as: One, it would parallel the other races of Theros that also have those skill boosts nicely, and two, the strength of Nymphs are very heavily tied to their respective terrain, so I worry they may be a bit situational. But at the same time, their strength in those situations may already be enough, so I might just be overcompensating. Regardless, they're in parentheses to separate them out from the rest of the post. I also realize The Elemental affinity feature might also need looking at as well. I welcome any and all feedback! Thank you for taking a look!!!
Race: Nymph
Divine servants that inhabit unspoiled corners of the world, nymphs protect places of natural power and infuse their surroundings with the magic of Nyx. Some are benevolent and aid those who live off the land, while others embody violent aspects of nature. In either case, nymphs generally avoid other sapient creatures, preferring to mind the cycles of nature, the daily interplay of wild animals, or other cosmic forces. Occasionally, though, groups of the same kind of nymphs congregate in a place of natural power or beauty. In times of special need, deities tied to facets of nature might employ nymphs as messengers, guardians, or scouts.
Age: Possibly immortal, varies depending on habitat
Size: From 4’7” to 5’ 9”, slender build, weigh from 90 to 145 lbs., medium
Speed: 30’ (30’ swimming for Naiads)
Ability Score Increase: +1 wisdom, +1 charisma
Features
Languages: You can write, speak, and read Common and Sylvan

Nymphs Associated Damage Resistance Associated Damage Weakness Habitat
Dryad Acidic Fire Trees in Forest
Naiad Psychic (chill instead?) Poison Rivers/Ocean/Lakes
Oread Fire Chill Mountains/ Volcanoes
Alseid Radiant Necrotic Grasslands/ Plains
Lampad Necrotic Radiant Caves/Tunnels/Graveyards
Sub-Race: Dryad
Description from Monster Manual: Travelers entering a forest might catch a glimpse of a feminine form flitting through the trees. Warm laughter hangs on the air, drawing those who hear it deeper into the emerald shadows.
Treebound. Powerful fey will sometimes bind lesser fey spirits to trees, transforming them into dryads. This is sometimes done as a punishment when the fey spirit falls in love with a mortal and that love is forbidden. A dryad can emerge from the tree and travel the lands around it, but the tree remains her home and roots her to the world. As long as the tree remains healthy and unharmed, the dryad stays forever youthful and alluring. If the tree is harmed, she suffers. If the tree is ever destroyed, the dryad descends into madness.
Reclusive Fey. Dryads act as guardians of their woodland demesnes. Shy and reclusive, they watch interlopers from the trees. A dryad struck by the beauty of a stranger might investigate more closely, perhaps even try to lure the individual away to be charmed. Dryads work with other sylvan creatures to defend their forests. Unicorns, treants, and satyrs live alongside them, in addition to druids that share the dryads' devotion to the woods they call home.
Alignment: Neutral
Ability Score Increase: +1 Wisdom
Features:
Sub-Race: Naiad
Description from Theros Sourcebook: Naiads live in and near water. They might be spotted among rivers and lakes, on isolated shores, or amid coral labyrinths and deep sea fumaroles. Wherever rivers and seas show their variety and force, naiads gather to revel in nature's might. Individual naiads often grow fixated with a single type or body of water, potentially preferring a deep sea trench, coastline, or river system above all others. Over time, such a resident nymph often becomes connected with their aquatic home through sightings and stories, becoming a guardian of the place and, in effect, a manifestation of its personality.
Aquatic Collectors. Curious by nature, naiads often seek out what the seas and rivers claim. As a result, they might be found among sunken ruins and shipwrecks, sifting through the remains for whatever catches their eye. Living creatures aren't exempt from this curiosity, either. Naiads are known to befriend aquatic creatures, or even to keep modest menageries. The occasional star-crossed castaway has even been known to become part of such collections.
Secret Routes of the Sea. Sailors across the world claim that naiads know all the secret aquatic routes of Theros. Using this hidden system of currents and arteries, a ship might reach any destination in record time, be it across the sea or along a river a hundred miles inland. Naiads do nothing to dissuade sailors from this belief, and certainly numerous reports tell of charmed nymphs leading lost seafarers home. Yet, if tales of naiad-led galleys appearing amid the headwaters of mountain rivers are true, only the nymphs know for sure.
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Ability Score Increase: +1 Intelligence
Features:
Sub-Race: Alseid
Description from Theros Sourcebook: Touched with the golden light of the sun, Alseids inhabit meadows, plains, and lands of cultivated natural beauty. Many live in closer proximity to human civilization than other nymphs. Farmers are grateful for the presence of alseids on their lands and often leave them offerings of mead, honey, flowers, and dates in return for protecting their flocks and making their crops more abundant.
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Ability Score improvements: +1 Charisma
Features:
Sub-Race: Lampad
Description from Theros Sourcebook: Lampads guard the shadowed paths of the world, depths typically trod by souls destined for the Underworld. These rarely seen nymphs assist Athreos in guiding the dead, moving among the spirits that collect along the Tartyx River and reclaiming wayward souls that try to slip back to the mortal world. This means lampads are most often spotted in graveyards, crumbling crypts, and tunnels that bore deep into the earth, and near portals to the Underworld.
Alignment: Neutral Evil
Ability Score Improvement: +1 Constitution
Features:
Sub-Race: Oread
Description from Theros Sourcebook: Aggressive oreads number among the most dangerous nymphs, as they embody the wild might of flames, volcanism, and the hidden forces of the earth. These creatures typically dwell in remote mountain crags and near volcanoes, where they caper among the forces of dissolution and rebirth. During avalanches and volcanic eruptions, groups of oreads might race ahead of the destruction, dancing, singing, and doing what they can to maximize the impending devastation.
Honor Among Fey. Hearkening back to some ages-old conflict, oreads refuse to knowingly destroy any land inhabited by another nymph. While they won't work to alter the natural course of destruction, neither will they make another nymph's home part of any calamity they encourage. As a result, part of what makes an alseid's field or a dryad's grove seem so blessed is that oreads go out of their way to leave such sites alone.
Tales of Fire. The followers of Purphoros regard oreads with special reverence, as myths tell of cagey smiths befriending these nymphs and convincing them to aid in creating phenomenal works. In some tales, a smith finds an oread and allows it to relish in the destruction of a novel or remarkable item. In recompense, the oread provides the smith with materials drawn from the burning heart of the world, allowing the smith to create an even greater wonder. In more tales, though, a smith pursues an oread, then later the mortal's associates find familiar tools and a heap of ashes.
Alignment: Chaotic Evil
Ability score Improvements: -1 wisdom, +1 strength, +1 dexterity
Features:
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2020.09.20 19:27 LoneWolf1ngIt Nymph Homebrew Race for Mythic Odyssey of Theros Campaign

Hello! This is my homebrew race designed for the Mythic Odyssey of Theros Sourcebook. I got around to doing this because I'm planning on limiting the available plyer races for the campaign I'm going to run to the Theros races, but found the selection to be slightly limiting. I was actually surprised to see that Nymphs weren't a player race in the book, so voila. Here we are. I used the Theros sourcebook for the race and sub-race descriptions, alignments, and a few spells and features, the player's handbook for some other spells, the monster manual for Dryads, this post from UnearthedArcana for many of the features, and this#Nymph_Traits) homebrew Nymph page on the Dungeons and Dragons wiki for height and weight. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out, but could use some balancing feedback, because not only will this be my first time running Theros material, it'll be my first time dming for a campaign.
To my understanding, it seems that races for the most part have 4-5 features, so I did my best to match that, but I worry I may be going over that a bit. I'm also still trying to figure out a spell to give to Lampads for their Innate Spellcasting as they were absent from the post I borrowed from, and the sourcebook only had two innate spellcasting spells for them. I was looking for 1st level spell slot spells they would be able to use at level 3 that would thematically fit with them. additionally I also think I should probably do away with each sub-races respective skill proficiency boost, but I'm still a bit hesitant to do so as: One, it would parallel the other races of Theros that also have those skill boosts nicely, and two, the strength of Nymphs are very heavily tied to their respective terrain, so I worry they may be a bit situational. But at the same time, their strength in those situations may already be enough, so I might just be overcompensating. Regardless, they're in parentheses to separate them out from the rest of the post. I also realize The Elemental affinity feature might also need looking at as well. I welcome any and all feedback! Thank you for taking a look!!!
Race: Nymph
Divine servants that inhabit unspoiled corners of the world, nymphs protect places of natural power and infuse their surroundings with the magic of Nyx. Some are benevolent and aid those who live off the land, while others embody violent aspects of nature. In either case, nymphs generally avoid other sapient creatures, preferring to mind the cycles of nature, the daily interplay of wild animals, or other cosmic forces. Occasionally, though, groups of the same kind of nymphs congregate in a place of natural power or beauty. In times of special need, deities tied to facets of nature might employ nymphs as messengers, guardians, or scouts.
Age: Possibly immortal, varies depending on habitat
Size: From 4’7” to 5’ 9”, slender build, weigh from 90 to 145 lbs., medium
Speed: 30’ (30’ swimming for Naiads)
Ability Score Increase: +1 wisdom, +1 charisma
Features
Languages: You can write, speak, and read Common and Sylvan

Nymph Sub-Race Associated Damage Resistance Associated Damage Weakness Habitat
Dryad Acidic Fire Tree in woodlands/forests
Naiad Psychic Poison Body of water in Sea or River
Oread Fire Chill Mountainous/volcanic region
Alseid Radiant Necrotic Grasslands/ Plains
Lampad Necrotic Radiant Graveyards/subterranean areas

Sub-Race: Dryad
Description from Monster Manual: Travelers entering a forest might catch a glimpse of a feminine form flitting through the trees. Warm laughter hangs on the air, drawing those who hear it deeper into the emerald shadows.
Treebound. Powerful fey will sometimes bind lesser fey spirits to trees, transforming them into dryads. This is sometimes done as a punishment when the fey spirit falls in love with a mortal and that love is forbidden. A dryad can emerge from the tree and travel the lands around it, but the tree remains her home and roots her to the world. As long as the tree remains healthy and unharmed, the dryad stays forever youthful and alluring. If the tree is harmed, she suffers. If the tree is ever destroyed, the dryad descends into madness.
Reclusive Fey. Dryads act as guardians of their woodland demesnes. Shy and reclusive, they watch interlopers from the trees. A dryad struck by the beauty of a stranger might investigate more closely, perhaps even try to lure the individual away to be charmed. Dryads work with other sylvan creatures to defend their forests. Unicorns, treants, and satyrs live alongside them, in addition to druids that share the dryads' devotion to the woods they call home.
Alignment: Neutral
Ability Score Increase: +1 Wisdom
Features:
Sub-Race: Naiad
Description from Theros Sourcebook: Naiads live in and near water. They might be spotted among rivers and lakes, on isolated shores, or amid coral labyrinths and deep sea fumaroles. Wherever rivers and seas show their variety and force, naiads gather to revel in nature's might. Individual naiads often grow fixated with a single type or body of water, potentially preferring a deep sea trench, coastline, or river system above all others. Over time, such a resident nymph often becomes connected with their aquatic home through sightings and stories, becoming a guardian of the place and, in effect, a manifestation of its personality.
Aquatic Collectors. Curious by nature, naiads often seek out what the seas and rivers claim. As a result, they might be found among sunken ruins and shipwrecks, sifting through the remains for whatever catches their eye. Living creatures aren't exempt from this curiosity, either. Naiads are known to befriend aquatic creatures, or even to keep modest menageries. The occasional star-crossed castaway has even been known to become part of such collections.
Secret Routes of the Sea. Sailors across the world claim that naiads know all the secret aquatic routes of Theros. Using this hidden system of currents and arteries, a ship might reach any destination in record time, be it across the sea or along a river a hundred miles inland. Naiads do nothing to dissuade sailors from this belief, and certainly numerous reports tell of charmed nymphs leading lost seafarers home. Yet, if tales of naiad-led galleys appearing amid the headwaters of mountain rivers are true, only the nymphs know for sure.
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Ability Score Increase: +1 Intelligence
Features:
Sub-Race: Alseid
Description from Theros Sourcebook: Touched with the golden light of the sun, Alseids inhabit meadows, plains, and lands of cultivated natural beauty. Many live in closer proximity to human civilization than other nymphs. Farmers are grateful for the presence of alseids on their lands and often leave them offerings of mead, honey, flowers, and dates in return for protecting their flocks and making their crops more abundant.
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Ability Score improvements: +1 Charisma
Features:
Sub-Race: Lampad
Description from Theros Sourcebook: Lampads guard the shadowed paths of the world, depths typically trod by souls destined for the Underworld. These rarely seen nymphs assist Athreos in guiding the dead, moving among the spirits that collect along the Tartyx River and reclaiming wayward souls that try to slip back to the mortal world. This means lampads are most often spotted in graveyards, crumbling crypts, and tunnels that bore deep into the earth, and near portals to the Underworld.
Alignment: Neutral Evil
Ability Score Improvement: +1 Constitution
Features:
Sub-Race: Oread
Description from Theros Sourcebook: Aggressive oreads number among the most dangerous nymphs, as they embody the wild might of flames, volcanism, and the hidden forces of the earth. These creatures typically dwell in remote mountain crags and near volcanoes, where they caper among the forces of dissolution and rebirth. During avalanches and volcanic eruptions, groups of oreads might race ahead of the destruction, dancing, singing, and doing what they can to maximize the impending devastation.
Honor Among Fey. Hearkening back to some ages-old conflict, oreads refuse to knowingly destroy any land inhabited by another nymph. While they won't work to alter the natural course of destruction, neither will they make another nymph's home part of any calamity they encourage. As a result, part of what makes an alseid's field or a dryad's grove seem so blessed is that oreads go out of their way to leave such sites alone.
Tales of Fire. The followers of Purphoros regard oreads with special reverence, as myths tell of cagey smiths befriending these nymphs and convincing them to aid in creating phenomenal works. In some tales, a smith finds an oread and allows it to relish in the destruction of a novel or remarkable item. In recompense, the oread provides the smith with materials drawn from the burning heart of the world, allowing the smith to create an even greater wonder. In more tales, though, a smith pursues an oread, then later the mortal's associates find familiar tools and a heap of ashes.
Alignment: Chaotic Evil
Ability score Improvements: -1 wisdom, +1 strength, +1 dexterity
Features:
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2020.09.20 18:45 dothedemolition Monogamy 2.0

Monogamy is such a given for most of society that, like eating meat or being vaguely Christian, it’s just part of the assumed life package for many of us. Monogamy is a big part of our enculturation into our society. It’s represented in movies and music and pop culture repeatedly as we grow up. And like anything of that sort, people have to think critically and be bold to break away from the herd. I do think sometimes it’s good to do so. For example I was raised Catholic but now I’m agnostic. I was raised in the south and ate meat and ended up becoming vegan. These are not things I will ever go back on. For me, they were good changes and bettered my life.
One exception for me is Ethical Non Monogamy or Poly (or whatever you want to call it). It most certainly DOES NOT work for me or my wife. I don’t think, however, that I’d have the clarity of appreciation around monogamy if I hadn’t tried non monogamy for two years. It seems a number of peeps on this reddit also have gone through this.
So many posts in this reddit are critical of Poly. For a reddit about monogamy why is Poly such a frequent topic? - some of you may ask. Yes, it may perplex some folks (or be entertainment fodder for the Poly people who wander in to read), but it makes sense to me that a contrasting or opposing model would be useful to clarify our feelings and thoughts on monogamy. Monogamy is an “establishment model” which is why there is a relatively small number of members in this reddit vs the Non Monogamy Reddit’s. However, Monogamy can become more of a conscious and inspired model for some people after they experience non-monogamy. So for this reason I want to call this new, enlightened model Monogamy 2.0, because we aren’t blind sheep about it. We left and we came back. We know exactly why we value monogamy. Oh do we...
I want to share what I think the highlights are of Monogamy 2.0
  1. Emotional/ Psychological and Physical- Security and Safety
There is something deeply nurturing and rewarding about simply knowing you and your partner are committed to one another. That you are emotionally available for one another and dedicated to building a life together. This was lost when my marriage was open. I always had an uneasy feeling and lacked a certain peace of mind because my wife was splitting her emotional and sexual and time resources with others. And I felt less certain about our future or with my standing in her life. Essentially I felt like a piece of our life together was gone. Because it was.
I like feeling that my wife is my match and she is mine. I’ll admit there is a positive sort of cockiness that comes with this. I think it is romantic as fuck to be proud of who you are with. And to feel good that you and your partner are, in your own way, a power couple. If that makes sense. That feeling only comes with monogamy.
And there is something to be said for not worrying about catching an STD or someone dating a stalker or lunatic.
I don’t think I appreciated this security/ peace of mind aspect l as much before opening the marriage. Post Non-Monogamy, however, I do.
2 . Time =Deeper intimacy
Time is limited. In addition to having spouses or partners, many of us have kids, careers, hobbies, fitness goals and friendships. We have limited time and energy outside of all that. When my wife and I became monogamous again we spent more time together. And of course we got closer and we became tighter friends, better lovers, and familiar again with the joy of a deep connection. Love and desire may be infinite but time is certainly finite. And therefore focus energy is finite.
New Relationship Energy is essentially putting your brain on drugs. Being non monogamous then isn’t just a time resource drain- it’s a focus and attention drain as well. It can be very consuming. Your friendships or family or kids can be neglected quite a bit due to all the texting and daydreaming and social media focus that being non monogamous brings. It’s like a part time job just got added into your evenings and weekends. Seriously.
I agree that “Love” is spelled T-I-M-E. It’s true for kids and it’s true for our romantic partners. And the “quality” of time argument Ive heard from ENM people is garbage. Time is time and there isn’t a lot of it. Make it count.
  1. Opportunity for better sex and passion.
We’ve all heard that one of the perks of non monogamy is that you can get all your sexual needs met and get more variety. You aren’t just driving the same car all the time, blah blah blah.
I think if people feel their partner is like a car they are bored driving, they may have partnered wrong. A lot of what makes monogamy work so beautifully is finding a great fit. Not always easy for some, but worth it. Sexual and lifestyle compatibility is very important. If one weds or couples with someone who isn’t a good fit, maybe they need to find someone else who is. Or learn to accept a bit of give and take. Life is about compromise. Maybe the reason so many narcissistic types are in the Poly scene is the drive to “have it all for myself.” But that sense of having it all is an illusion.
If we partnered well, then investing and developing a fun and fulfilling sex life should be very doable. My wife and I have excellent sex . We are compatible in terms of how often we want sex and how kinky or vanilla we like it. When we were open we always preferred the sex we had with each other because we had years of history and attachment. And we have always been hot for one another. Except now we have the added bonus of knowing we are committed to only one another. This creates greater intimacy on all sorts of levels.
Another memory I have from those two ENM years was the day my wife came home in tears because she was rejected by one of her partners. He rejected her for sex because he already had sex with someone else that day. That was her first eye opening experience that maybe Poly was not what she hoped. She said “I thought I could have multiple meaningful relationships that were like what I have with you, my husband.” She saw repeatedly there was no way to come close to the rewards monogamy provided. All this variety and all the options can backfire in terrible ways. I actually think Polyamory is great for love avoidants or folks avoiding intimacy.
If you don’t feel like you need to invest in the sexual relationship with one partner because you have other partners, then a self fulfilling, endless loop occurs. Of course partner A will not fulfill you if Partner B or C is the only one you seek the activity or kink with. But when you have one well picked partner, you can explore the most options together, grow together and explore together.
  1. Renewed appreciation for Platonic Friendships
I noticed during the two years I tried ENM that my platonic friendships were the first to get neglected. Pursuing and communicating with new sexual or romantic partners was so consuming that I just didn’t have time to have beers or dinners with my pals, or even call them. Non monogamous behavior is kind of like your new “entertainment” time and expense budget. Ever notice how being Poly is almost a full time hobby? It’s no fun being one dimensional is it? Being monogamous affords me my friendships and and I cherish them more than ever.
And the beauty of platonic friendships is that you can get some of your intellectual or hobby/ niche interest needs met or whatever. Or even some emotional needs. That’s kind of the beautiful thing about having friends. Kind of the point, really. You don’t need to romantically date someone else to get these things.
  1. Devotion without Possession or Ownership
An argument Polyamorist folk have in their quiver is that Mono people try to own one another or possess one another. Monogamy 2.0 for me shines a light on the fact that my wife and I give ourselves, voluntarily, to one another and to the success and joy of our marriage. She is choosing me and I’m choosing her. I don’t own her and she is not my property. Nor am I hers. We see each other as individuals and still choose monogamy. This is a beautiful thing in my opinion. And no Poly person can touch this.
I’m sure there are more things I could say about my appreciation of Monogamy post Non Monogamy experiment. But that should cover most of the key points. Love to hear anyone else’s experience or observations.
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2020.09.20 14:25 JacobInAustin Singh v. Pythagoras Innovation Academies, 2020 MISC 1

Chesapeake State Court of Appeals

Singh v. Pythagoras Innovation Academies

Decided on May 18th, 2020

Judge Lemaire delivered the opinion of the Court.
¶ 1. Mr. Parkash Singh argues on appeal that the Circuit Court of the City of Baltimore erred in finding that appellee Pythagoras Innovation Academies did not violate the First Amendment or the Protecting Religious Expression Act by expelling Mr. Singh as a student due to his possession of an unsheathed kirpan. We disagree and affirm the Court’s decision.
I. Background
¶ 2. The record shows that Appellant was enrolled at Pythagoras Innovation Academies, a public charter school located in Baltimore’s Charles Village neighborhood, from 2017 until his expulsion in 2020.
¶ 3. Mr. Singh, a student in his last year of high school, is a devout, practicing member of the Sikh faith, a religion founded by Guru Nanak that originates from the Indian subcontinent in the 15th century. To many in the Sikh faith, the wearing of the kirpan, a ceremonial sword of various shapes and sizes, is a religious command. See Eleanor M. Nesbit, Sikhism: A Very Short Introduction (2016), http://tiny.cc/ejgxsz. Mr. Singh subscribes to this religious command and has, since the age of seven, worn the kirpan in his daily life. His kirpan is a small dagger with a four-inch blade, sheathed in a metalic cover that is attached at all times to his belt.
¶ 4. The issue of Mr. Singh’s kirpan is one which has confronted the school on several occasions. Upon enrollment as a sophomore transfer student, the school administration reached an agreement with Mr. Singh’s parents that he be allowed to wear the ceremonial blade so long as it remained fully sheathed on all occasions while on school premises. This arrangement went without incident for the first year of Mr. Singh’s time at the school, but this changed on October 22nd, 2018, when he unsheathed the kirpan during recess after a friend asked to see the weapon. For this offense, Mr. Singh was suspended for five days and received a stern warning that a repeat offense may lead to more severe consequences.
¶ 5. The second incident, and the subject of the instant action, occurred on March 26, 2020. During a kickboxing unit in physical education class, Mr. Singh performed a high kick and, in the process, the kirpan came loose from its cover and fell onto the ground in plain sight of his classmates. Citing student safety concerns, the instructor attempted to confiscate the kirpan for the remainder of the class period, but Mr. Singh refused to surrender the blade on account of his religious commandments and was consequently dismissed from classes for the remainder of the day.
¶ 6. On March 28, Mr. Singh was summoned to a meeting with Principal Samantha Chow and informed that he was in violation of the Code of Student Conduct and, this being the second infraction, he would be expelled at the end of the academic year. The provision of the school rules cited by Ms. Chow reads:
¶ 6A. “As a Pythagoras Academies Spartan, you are expected to show your school spirit and always behave in accordance to these rules. Don’t forget: our Spartan values are equality, cooperation and nonviolence. “
¶ 7. The first rule is that Spartans don’t hurt others. Weapons are not allowed on school premises under any circumstances without the written approval of the Principal. This includes any blade, explosive and firearm, whether operable or otherwise, along with any non-weapons being used as weapons (see Appendix). If you break this rule, you will be suspended from school for no less than one month and may face expulsion at the discretion of the Principal.
¶ 8. The Appendix to the Code further clarifies that: “A weapon is any tool that can be used to hurt another student or destroy school property. Weapons include, but are not limited to, guns (including fake, toy or “bb” guns), bullets, knives (including pocket knives and pen knives), swords, daggers, shanks, explosives, razors, blades, bats, clubs, brass knuckles, bombs, fireworks/firecrackers, “tasers” and any other tool or device that could be reasonably confused for a weapon.”
¶ 9. The trial court held that Mr. Singh’s claim implicated a First Amendment right and, applying strict scrutiny, found that the protection of student safety was a compelling government interest and that a ban on weapons on school grounds was narrowly tailored to further this goal. The court rejected Mr. Singh’s argument that a religious exemption would be a less restrictive means towards the same goal, finding that exemptions risked undermining the integrity of a weapons ban. With regard to the state law claim, the Court determined that, the presence of a weapon being sufficient per se to establish the existence of a threat to others, the Act does not protect Mr. Singh’s right to the kirpan on school premises.
II. Analysis
¶ 10. An appellate court reviews questions of law de novo. Rollins v. Commonwealth, 554 S.E.2d 99, 102; 37 Va. App. 73, 78 (2001). In the instant case, we are presented on appeal with two distinct claims: that Mr. Singh’s expulsion violated the First Amendment, or alternatively violated the state Protecting Religious Expression Act (PRE Act). Both are pure questions of law, and neither party disputes the evidentiary facts established at trial.
A. Free Exercise Clause
¶ 11. Appellant first challenges the trial court’s determination that the school did not infringe upon the First Amendment in expelling Mr. Singh. Citing the standard established in Carey v. Dixie Inn, 101 M.S.Ct. 112; 1 M.Slip.Op. 64; 2020 US 1, the court held that the school’s actions must be held to strict scrutiny, but that the school’s policy is both narrowly-tailored and furthers a compelling interest.
¶ 12. The trial court’s use of the strict scrutiny standard is inappropriate. Although Dixie Inn purportedly establishes strict scrutiny as the standard of review for rules of general applicability, 101 M.S.Ct. at 112; 1 M.Slip.Op., at 65; 2020 US 1, ¶ 9 (“even a neutral law of general applicability must meet the standard of strict scrutiny where the law substantially burdens the free exercise of religion”) (citations omitted), the Court immediately proceeds in its analysis to ignore its own finding and shift the burden of proof onto the plaintiff. Ibid (“[Plaintiff] failed to demonstrate that the the [sic] compelling government interest in combating discrimination can be advanced while allowing for religious exceptions.”) (citations omitted). This is consistent with no form of strict scrutiny that we are aware of, since, of course, longstanding precedent dictates that the burden of proof ought to fall squarely on the state. Horen v. Commonwealth, 479 S.E.2d 553, 559-60; 23 Va. App. 735, 748 (1997), accord, In re Dismemberment Abortion Ban Act, 101 M.S. Ct. 106 (“Our precedent does not place the burden upon the plaintiff’s [sic] in these cases.”).
¶ 13. We can only conclude from this contradiction, since we are precluded from entertaining the possibility that the Supreme Court has made a mistake, see generally Dismemberment Abortion Ban Act, supra (“Obviously the Court below cannot overrule our precedent, regardless of whether it thinks it is out of date.”), that the reference to strict scrutiny in Dixie Inn was merely dicta and that Employment Division v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990), remains controlling precedent.
¶ 14. Under the Smith standard, “generally applicable, religion-neutral laws that have the effect of burdening a particular religious practice need not be justified by a compelling governmental interest.” 494 U.S., at 892. There is little contention that a prohibition of weapons on school grounds is such a neutral, generally-applicable regulation. Consequently, the regulation at hand does “not require heightened First Amendment scrutiny even though [it diminishes] some people's ability to practice their religion.” Barnes v. Glen Theatre, Inc., 501 U.S. 560, 579 (1991), accord, Free Locke v. Davey, 540 U.S. 712, 721 (2004).
¶ 15. The permissive tier of rational basis review requires “only that the classification challenged be rationally related to a legitimate state interest.” New Orleans v. Dukes, 427 U.S. 297, 303 (1976). We begin our analysis by noting the well-established proposition that protecting the physical safety of minors is a legitimate, even compelling, state interest. Cf. Sable Communications v. FCC, 492 U.S. 115, 126 (1989). The rational connection between this interest and the school’s weapons policy, in our estimation, is self-evident: eliminating weapons from school premises promotes the safety of students, since weapons are associated with increased violence. See Thomas R. Simon, et al., Students who carry weapons to highschool: comparison with other weapon-carriers, 24 Journal of Adolescent Health 340 (1999), http://tiny.cc/xjgxsz.
¶ 16. The dissent asks us to cast away the well-established foundations of First Amendment jurisprudence in favor of so-called ‘common sense,’ but “common sense is a collective noun, like religion: there is not just one common sense.” Antonio Gramsci, Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1971). In our society of laws, we cannot countenance the proposition that the Constitution dictates that the esoteric belief systems of certain subsets of the population should override general, religiously-neutral laws designed to protect the public safety. And as we have explained above, we find the idea that the vague and confused line of reasoning in Dixie Inn’s analysis supersedes the clear command of Smith to be unpersuasive.
¶ 17. As Mr. Singh’s expulsion did not violate the Free Exercise Clause and the school policy in question clears rational basis review, we conclude that the First Amendment claim must fail.
B. Protecting Religious Expression Act
¶ 18. Appellant further challenges the trial court’s determination that the school’s decision falls within the exclusion clause of the Protecting Religious Expression Act. The Act at section 3(a) provides that:
¶ 18A. No school, governmental agency or non-governmental organization that receives either full or partial funding from the Commonwealth may institute any ordinance, rule or regulation that prohibits, restricts or penalizes the wearing of any garments or accessories that are congruent with genuinely-held religious beliefs.
¶ 19. The Act further includes an exclusion clause which reads: This subsection does not apply to garments or accessories that are obscene or otherwise pose a threat to the safety of people around them. Schools should always make accommodations to serve the religious needs of citizens of Chesapeake in any way a reasonable person shall identify to meet the needs while respecting safety [sic] of others.
¶ 20. We first address the question of whether the kirpan falls within the protection of section 3(a)—the answer is undoubtedly yes. As previously established, the kirpan is an accessory that is fundamental to the practice of Sikhism, and it is undisputed by either party that Mr. Singh is a devout and genuine follower of the faith. His kirpan unquestionably constitutes an accessory congruent with a genuinely-held belief.
¶ 21. The more difficult question is whether the school policy is covered by the exclusion clause. As we explain below, we believe that it does.
¶ 22. As a matter of law, a dagger is a deadly weapon because of its extreme potential for harm and lack of other common uses. Cf. Floyd v. Commonwealth, 62 S.E.2d 6, 10; 191 Va. 674, 683 (1950) (an axe is a deadly weapon per se). The kirpan falls within this category, and its mere presence in a school environment thus poses a threat to the safety of other students. Consequently, we hold that the restriction of the kirpan falls outside the protections of the PRE Act and the school’s policy is lawful.
¶ 23. The dissent argues that the kirpan should not be treated as an ordinary knife because the Sikh faith does not permit adherents to employ the blade as a weapon. Though Mr. Singh’s religious convictions may prohibit him from using the knife offensively, its presence on school premises nonetheless tangibly increases the danger to other students. For instance, the kirpan may fall into the hands of another student with no such ethical command or, as occurred in the instant case, it may accidentally become unsheathed and potentially cause injury to others.
¶ 24. The dissent further argues that our interpretation of the exclusion clause ignores its second sentence concerning accommodations. In accordance with elementary principles of statutory interpretation, we take the Act at its plain meaning—the language of the second sentence, which begins with the distinctly advisory language “schools should,” is merely a recommendation that schools are requested to follow. As it is clearly non-binding upon the school, we decline to read compulsion into the Assembly’s suggestion.
III. Conclusion
¶ 25. For the foregoing reasons, we hold that the school’s dismissal of Mr. Singh did not violate the First Amendment or the Protecting Religious Expression Act. Accordingly, we affirm.
Judge Alcaldo, dissenting.
¶ 26. “[Justice] ever has been, and ever will be, pursued until it be obtained, or until liberty be lost in the pursuit.” Alexis de Tocqueville, 1 Democracy in America (1835). In today’s decision, the majority has pursued justice blindly to the ends of the world, only to lose at the end of its journey one of the most cherished liberties of our nation: the freedom of religion.
¶ 27. Deference to public authorities must stop where common sense begins. In the case before us today, everyone agrees on the essential premise: that the kirpan is a sacred symbol to the Sikh faith, that Mr. Singh is not a threat to public safety, and that the events that led to expulsion were an unfortunate accident. Common sense dictates one outcome; the Court has chosen the other.
I.
¶ 28. The trouble begins with the majority’s straitjacketed interpretation of the First Amendment, which ignores not only modern precedent but also lacks the most basic common sense.
¶ 29. “That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights…” From the start of the Republic, Americans have looked to faith for guidance. Of course, a nation as expansive and diverse as the United States is home to various disparate groups, each with its own unique creeds and beliefs. The Founding Fathers, and indeed every generation of Americans since, has consequently seen it proper to enshrine within our Constitution the “freedom of every person to worship God in his own way.” President Franklin D. Roosevelt, State of the Union Address (Jan. 6, 1941). “In fact, whoever has really practised a religion knows very well that it is the cult which gives rise to these impressions of joy, of interior peace, of serenity, of enthusiasm which are, for the believer, an experimental proof of his beliefs.” Émile Durkheim, The Elementary Forms of the Religious Life (1912).
¶ 30. Religious freedom is therefore one of the most sacred liberties of the American republic, a fact recognized by the Supreme Court when it reaffirmed the strict scrutiny standard in religious discrimination cases, sub silentio with In re Stopping Abuse and Indoctrination of Children Act of 2015, 100 M.S.Ct. 111 (2015), and explicitly in Dixie Inn. The majority’s reliance on Smith is misplaced in light of this more recent precedent, as some of our sister courts have observed. Carey v. Dixie Inn, No. 19-21 (Dx. 2019), http://tiny.cc/wkgxsz, rev’ on other grounds, 101 M.S.Ct. 113; 1 M.Slip.Op. 64; 2020 US 1 (2020) (“Smith is simply no longer an applicable test.”).
¶ 31. Strict scrutiny is the “most rigorous and exacting standard of constitutional review.” Miller v. Johnson, 515 U.S. 900, 920 (1995). To survive strict scrutiny, “the law must be a necessary element for achieving a compelling governmental interest.” Mahan v. NCPAC, 315 S.E.2d 829, 832; 227 Va. 330, 336 (1984) (citing Greenberg v. Bolger, 497 F. Supp. 756, 778 (E.D.N.Y. 1980)). In turn, necessity requires the law to be “the least burdensome means available for attaining the governmental objective in question.” Id. I do not question the majority’s observation that the state has a compelling interest in protecting student safety, but, in my estimation, Appellee has failed to demonstrate that the presence of the kirpan has a real—not merely speculative—impact on the safety of students, and thus that a religious exemption from the rule would undermine the objective. Ergo, the school policy’s restriction on the kirpan does not materially improve upon the advancement of the interest in question and fails the narrow tailoring prong of the test.
¶ 32. As the school policy as applied to the instant case cannot withstand strict scrutiny, I would hold that Mr. Singh was deprived of his free exercise rights under the First Amendment.
II.
¶ 33. If the majority is unwilling to accord the protection of the First Amendment to Mr. Singh, one would be excused at least to believe that the Protecting Religious Expression Act, an act expressly passed by the Assembly to protect religious accessories, would still afford him relief. However, in a cruel twist, the majority has clipped the law’s wings before it could even take off by constricting its erstwhile expansive protections into oblivion.
¶ 34. The majority’s holding that all knives are per se deadly weapons is not only conclusory, it is incorrect in light of our longstanding precedent that “whether a weapon is to be regarded as deadly often depends more on the manner in which it has been used than on its intrinsic character.” Pannill v. Commonwealth, 38 S.E.2d 457, 462; 185 Va. 244, 254 (1946). The kirpan is no mere dagger because its dominant use is as a religious icon and its offensive use is strictly prohibited by Sikh teachings. To a devout Sikh, a kirpan is no more a weapon than a box cutter is to a mailman, as it “is worn in devotion to truth and should only be drawn as a last resort in a righteous cause.” W. Owen Cole, Understanding Sikhism (2004), http://tiny.cc/tkgxsz.
¶ 35. Moreover, the ruling today ignores the clear intent of the Assembly that the protections of the PRE Act ought to be interpreted liberally. The Act’s exception clause provides that “[s]chools should always make accommodations to serve the religious needs of citizens of Chesapeake in any way a reasonable person shall identify to meet the needs while respecting safety of others.” Far from the majority’s interpretation that the remotest sign of danger triggers the exception clause, the legislature stipulated that a balancing test be applied between religious freedom and student safety interests in the eyes of a reasonable person.
¶ 36. The religious freedom interest claimed by Mr. Singh under the Act is real, reasonable and simply palpable. A reasonable person would clearly understand the spiritual importance of the kirpan to any faithful Sikh, and acknowledge the deep ethical quandary that would emerge if Mr. Singh was forced to choose between his faith and his education. In contrast, a reasonable person would assess the security risk to be low, as Mr. Singh is a model student and responsible kirpan owner who has attended Pythagoras Academies for three years with little incident, beside a single youthful misunderstanding of the limitation of the rules. His possession of a small ceremonial blade, even if briefly exposed in an accident, would create at the very most an apprehended sense of danger—one that cannot outweigh the grave injury to Mr. Singh’s religious freedom if the school’s unjust expulsion is allowed to stand today. Moreover, given that the blade is at all times attached in a metallic constraint to Mr. Singh’s belt, I find the majority’s conjecture that a danger to student safety may arise from the kirpan falling into the possession of another student to be fanciful.
III.
¶ 36. The Court’s decision today places unthinking and legalistic adherence to the letter of the law over reason, common sense and the plain intent of the Assembly, legitimizing a clear instance of discrimination against a religious minority in our Commonwealth’s schools.
¶ 37. I respectfully dissent.
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2020.09.18 21:09 jw_mentions /r/exAdventist - "ExJW here, curious about Adventists"

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First of all, I am from exjw (Ex-Jehovah’s Witness). I find it awesome that you guys use the term “PIMO” as well! I have a few questions:
1)I work with more than a few Adventist’s and find them all to be the sweetest people. They are very understanding and seriously so sweet. As a Jehovah’s Witness, we have a phrase called “put on the new personality.” Is this something you also practice? Is this also a conversion tactic, Or just how you were raised based off of the examples at church?
2) What made you leave?
For my context, as an ex-Jehovah’s Witness, I can think of at least 10 reasons I left my religion (multiple false “end of the world” prophecies/timeline, disfellowshipping/shunning punishment arrangement, not allowed to research your own religion outside of the religion, pedophile anti-reporting policies, no blood transfusions/risking life because of it, lack of tolerance for lgbt or any outsiders, extreme demand of time, high-control religion (clothing, activities), bible doesn’t make sense, 8 guys control the church ideas and change them whenever they want, the list goes on and on)
3) What do you believe now?
4) Do you miss anything about the religion?
Edit: for those who don’t know, “PIMO” means “Physically in, Mentally out”, those who no longer believe but are too scared to lose their entire network of friends/family, so they fake it. We use it in the exJW community. There’s also “POMO” for those who are openly out of the religion, either by force or by choice, and “PIMI” used to describe those who are still fully in.
Thank you all for your replies!!

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Author orpheus6
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  1. Friendship evangelism is pushed hard, at least in my experience. Fake niceness towards outsiders is encouraged - it’s amplified if that outsider is an important person. Everyone’s a bit fake-nice at church.
  2. Funnily enough while studying theology my love for exegesis was my undoing (reading whichever bible book in context, trying to understand the author’s intent, relevant historical & social data, linguistic data, etc). Exegesis, specifically with non-SDA scholarly sources, exposed a lot of flaws in my prior SDA fundamentalism and helped me to see that a lot of what was coming from SDA church propaganda, the pulpit, and sugar-sweet devotionals is nonsense if one is to take the bible exegetically. I quickly began to despise devotional readings of the bible and fundamentalist proof-texting.
Basically all the “big SDA proofs” which had been preached at me for decades crumbled upon closer exegetical examination (this set of SDA proofs also included many of the general “Christian/biblical proofs.”
Plus prayer never worked and that always bothered me. It always seemed like god had an easy out whenever you really needed him to actually turn up or affect reality as promised. The “relationship with god” was also completely one-sided, which isn’t really a relationship.
EGW’s influence was also very un-fun and wet-blankety. I’m so glad to be free of her authority.
  1. I’m an amorphous agnostic apostate I guess. I lean atheist - based on the reality I perceive I don’t think there’s a benevolent god behind it - but I leave the option open. Perhaps a trickster god or a demiurge-type god would be more in line with reality.
  2. Maybe the sense of security and the sense of ultimate closure (coupled with death avoidance). These factors don’t make up for the incredible neurotic anxiety, guilt etc.
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Welcome to the sub!
1) From personal experience, I find a lot of Adventists can be very fake. I did grow up around some genuinely good people in my church, but so many of the big-wigs were completely different underneath the facade, be it from fear or biblical obligation.
2) Like at least one other commenter said, I also had a traumatic experience with my mom that really got the ball rolling on me being PIMO. I’ve told this story on the sub before, but essentially we were being badly abused by my dad. We finally were able to physically separate ourselves from him and move somewhere else safe, and when my mom went to the church elders/pastor for guidance in filing for divorce, they told her she didn’t have grounds for divorce because he hadn’t cheated on my mom with another woman; because that was the only biblical ground for divorce. Essentially condemning my mom to die for the sake of keeping god happy. I never spoke to any of those people again due to the betrayal I felt. I did attend a different church when I moved to another city with an ex, because he was still in. But as soon as we broke up over 5 years ago, I never again attended, even casually. It was the most free I’ve ever felt.
To add on though, aside from the bad experience with leadership, I found the whole church doctrine to be complete bullshit the more I looked at it. So controlling and legalistic, and full of holes that nobody would dare address.
I still can’t believe JW’s are against blood transfusions. I dated a JW guy in high school who was excommunicated during our relationship and it was a huge deal to his family. His mom was inconsolable because her son was going to hell. Just yikes, dude.
3) I honestly haven’t fully labeled my current beliefs, because I don’t really care to. I definitely lean more towards atheism since I find it baffling to think there’s a powerful sky being who has the ability to help, yet actively chooses to not save its creations and let them perish en masse. Even if there does turn out to be a god, gimme eternal damnation, cuz I don’t wanna sing praises to that asshole in perpetuity.
4) Strangely enough, I miss potluck. My family had the young adult sabbath school group over to our house every Saturday and my mom and I would cook and have these amazing vegan meals (actually good ones because my mom is an incredible cook) and just lounge around with people I loved. Then Saturday nights we would get a group and go bowling or do another social activity with everybody. It was great socialization. As an adult now, it’s hard to find a cohesive group in that way since everyone has conflicting schedules and lives.
None of that is worth being in the church for, though.
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One of my people! Oh man, my worldwide brotherhood instincts are kicking in, but in an exJW much-more-genuine kind of way. :)
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Hi there! I love exSDA - exJW solidarity. From what I read on here, the term PIMO was coined by someone in the exJW community, but I might be wrong. Either way I personally am very grateful for it.
  1. Indeed most Adventists you will meet as a nonSDA will seem very nice people. In my experience, Adventists are eager to maintain this "kind Christian" exterior in order to make a good impression. Reputation and exterior matters more to them than reality. For a lot of them it matters that people outside the church distinguish them from other cults by their niceness and selflessness. Many people in my church bragged about how they brought so many to Adventism just by being nice and helpful, because the people in question thought "wow they are so different". Of course, this isn't to say that most of them aren't actually good, but growing up in this church and seeing how they can really be, has made me wary of those first impressions. However, no, we don't have the new personality rule, the tendency to act nicely is most likely just ingrained in the church mentality.
  2. 90% of your reasons for leaving are mine too. Continuous end-of-the-world fear mongering despite multiple false prophecies has made me stop taking anything about Adventism seriously. The encouragement of blind faith. Bigotry and high control, like clothing, lifestyle, activities, everything in your life has to revolve around church and Adventism. The members' fakeness and passive-aggressiveness, and the mask they put on to seem happy and put together, because everything had to be a competition in the church. And also the obsession with (racist) Ellen White's prophecies and writings, and how she is put above the Bible most of the time. An overall unsettling and uncomfortable experience.
  3. I don't have any religious beliefs now. I'm still trying to unlearn some of the most venomous and traumatizing stuff that was ingrained in me since birth. I don't see myself ever reverting to a state of blind faith for another religion. I don't know if I'm an atheist or anything. I haven't had the energy or desire to look into anything else, I'm still processing my existence outside of SDA. I probably am agnostic, by definition, but I don't really know. When I was in high school I used to call myself an apatheist, it's a term for when you don't care whether God exists or not. Now I don't feel the need to call myself anything, I'm just trying to feel normal.
  4. Nothing at all. I thought I would miss the few friends I had in the church, but I really don't. Most of the things I would think about as positive and worthy of being missed have very little to do with the church/religion and more to do with being an innocent kid. I'm talking like summer camps, games, singing with other kids, learning about nature, etc. Once I hit high school and became more familiar with the doctrine and teachings, I started feeling cold towards the church itself. So now no, can't say I miss anything.
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Author cubej333
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Good Christians can be sweet, it doesn't have anything to do with how correct their doctrine is. It should be obvious that real Christianity is about a relationship and not about 'right believing' or 'right knowing'. Plenty of wonderful Mormons and non-Christians too.
I wouldn't say I left, I would say that I now identify primarily as Christian and not as Adventist. I am still happy to attend many Adventist churches just as I am happy to attend many Lutheran or Assembly of God or Presbyterian or Methodist churches.
I have met some wonderful Witnesses but have never attended a Jehovah Witness church.
Obviously I am (still) a Christian.
I think Adventists do Sabbath School (for young kids) better than most denominations.
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At least when chatting with most of them I see a notable difference. Very easy to talk with. Maybe it’s because we have similar upbringings and similar deep seeded anxiety-ties, or just used to love bombing from church. I can see a few being very grumpy and judge mental, even thinking that I am judging them for something they did wrong (like admitting they secretly drink coffee every day and that’s SO bad! Please don’t tell so-and-so!). I’m glad you chose to leave for your kids. That sabbath thing sounds awful. JWs actually claim to debunk the Sabbath teaching. I guess it’s all on interpretation, which the whole bible is up for interpretation in a million wacky ways, which makes it harder and harder to believe in the first place.
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I am on this reddit as an ex JW for the same reasons!
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2020.09.18 20:11 Whitewyne Robert Redwyne, Lord of Dragonstone

(Note, I had included an AC in my Step 1 but have now decided to proceed without an AC for the time being and will consider adding them later on.)

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Character Name: Robert Redwyne
Starting Title(s): Lord of Dragonstone, Master of Ships, Ser
Age: 54
Physical Description: Robert is a man whose receding hair and grizzled hair betray the absence of his youth. A thin man but not necessarily frail. He stands an average height of 5'8" and sports blue eyes.
Starting Location: King's Landing
Attribute: Bellicose
Skill Points: 22
Skills: Leadership (CHA), Naval Warfare (MAR), Navigation (MAR), Naval Engineering (EDU), Finances (EDU)
Mastery: Admiral (MAR)
CHA MAR COM INT STE STA EDU MAG
4 10 0 0 0 1 7 0
Username: Whitewyne
Discord Username: hwk
Other Characters: Elenei Gower, Wallace Whitecapp
Robert Redwyne is the first born son of Randyll Redwyne and Bethany Bar Emmon. He was born in 329 AC and inherited Dragonstone in 345 AC after the passing of his grandfather, Hobber Redwyne. His father, Randyll passed in 340 AC when Robert was only 11 years old. This left him five years to learn under his grandfather and his education was largely focused on the sea. As the new overlords of Dragonstone the Redwynes had a formidable fleet and Lord Hobber wanted to ensure that his grandson would know how to utilize it. When he inherited Dragonstone at the age of 16 he dedicated himself to mastering the seas. He quickly became one of the top admirals in Westeros.

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Birth Name: Robert Redwyne
Titles: Lord of Dragonstone, Master of Ships
Gender: Male
Date of Birth: 14th Day, Second Moon of 329 AC
Location: King's Landing
Culture: Andal
Religion: Faith of the Seven
Affiliations: House Redwyne of Dragonstone, House Tyrell of King's Landing
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown but greying
Height: 5’8”
Liege: Queen Myrcella Tyrell
Predecessor: Lord Hobber Redwyne
Heir: Hobber Redwyne

History

Robert Redwyne is only the second of his family to rule Dragonstone since being gifted the small island by Myrcella I Baratheon. He is the first born grandson of Lord Hobber Redwyne and great grandson of Lord Paxter Redwyne who provided his fleet to liberate the Shield Islands from the Ironborn. Robert was born in 329 to his parents, Randyll Redwyne and Bethany Bar Emmon. His childhood was much of what you would expect from a boy growing up on an desolate island so close to the capital of the continent. He longed to be there and not on Dragonstone. Every day he would awake looking to the west and wishing he had one of the Dragons of old that he could ride across the Narrow Sea on and be in King's Landing within hours. Instead he was trapped on this island with little to do. He was aware of the fact that one day this castle would be his but that felt such a far away thing that he desired to live and be free until such a time came. Unfortunately, his eyes were opened to how quickly things can change in 340 Ac when he was but eleven years old.
As the Bastards of the Tides terroized the Narrow Sea, House Redwyne tried to form a resonpse. The attempt to put an end to the years of misery and terror was put together and led by Randyll Redwyne, the heir to Dragonstone and Robert's father. He led a fleet of Redwyne vessels from Dragonstone and sailed straight for the Stepstones hoping to hit the pirates at their core and cripple their ability to wage their atrocities any longer. In the end it was a remarkable failure. Only two vessels of the original fleet limped home and among the dead was the bold and confident heir to Dragonstone. Suddenly, at only the age of eleven and with an ever aging grandfather, Robert was thrust into the unenviable position of being prepped for an impending Lordship.
Lord Hobber did all he could in his ever increasing age to prepare his grandson with all the things he would need to know. But Robert was still a boy and lessons took time to take root. Time that Hobber did not have. There was one thing that Hobber was able to successfully instill in his young grandson though. A love for the sea. Robert had dreamed of flying away from Dragonstone as the Targaryens of old once did for all his youth. That was never a realistic dream but when he realized that ships could do the exact same as the dragons of old he was captivated. There was seldom a day where Robert was not aboard a ship, learning how to navigate it, learning how to read the sky, and studying what made the ships effective. He knew there were secrets that had yet to be unlocked about seafaring and he was determined to find them.
He was sixteen when his grandfather passed in 345 AC. It was a natural death and one that did not come as a surprise to Robert or any of the other family members. Though it still hurt. The great Hobber Redwyne, the slayer of Aurane Waters and defender of the Blackwater, had died. Nobody would ever be able to truly replace the man but Robert was old enough to understand the legacy left behind. He knew it was his time to build on that legacy and he resolved himself that day that Westeros would never know a better admiral than him.
If before his attraction to the sea was a fascination, now it was an obsession. Each day was spent learning his ships, studying their state, attending to their maintenace. It continued this way until two things happened, first being the Lord of Dragonstone recognized his duty to wed and produce a line of his own to one day take over the island. His first child was born to him in 354 AC and was named Hobber in honor of Robert's grandfather. There had never been any doubt in his mind as to what the name of his first son would be. The second was the calling of the Crown. The Lord of Dragonstone's reputation with his ships had not gone unnoticed and he was offered a position on the King's Small Council as Master of Ships. It was all he had ever dreamed of and despite being a rather young appointment he was eager to accept. All the memories of his childhood dreams of flying across the narrow sea to be in King's Landing were now realized and it had been ships that brought him there instead of the oft dreamed about dragons.
Though it was in 357 AC when Lord Robert was forced to prove his worth. As war raged in the Reach the Hightowers, a crown loyalist, was being harassed by the other Redwynes. It was not something that Robert took great joy in, being forced to lead his own fleet against his cousin. But as his King commanded he would obey. When battle came it was Robert's fleet that prevailed, breaking the blockade of Arbor and Western ships, freeing up Hightower men to advance break the siege at Brightwater Keep. The accolades he received after such a monumental victory, however, were overbearing to him. He had gone his entire adolescent and adult life to this point thinking he wanted to be the best Admiral in Westeros. By all accounts he had now achieved that, undisputably, but it all felt empty.
His skill and ability likely made it a surprise when he tenured his resignation from the small council in the following year, 358 AC, to King Alester Tyrell. It was made clear that the decision had not been made lightly but after such a rigours campaign and with the birth of his second child, a daughter name Myrcella, it was time for Lord Robert to return to Dragonstone and focus on his family. And so just like that, his dreams of being a famed admiral and residing in King's Landing had been realized and neither had lived up to what he had hoped. Robert returned to Dragonstone and found a new admiration for it. Devoting himself to not only his ships but to his lands and his people but most importantly, his family.
In the years that followed things slowed down for the Lord of Dragonstone. He would have three more children, all daughters, with the first two being twins born in 362 AC. Cersei and Margaery Redwyne were not quite identical as Hobber and Horras Redwyne had been but Robert thought it ironic that he had been blessed with twin daughters just as his great grandfather had been blessed with twin sons. His last child was born a few years later in 365 AC and would be named Olenna Tyrell after the woman who had once been known as the Queen of Thornes and who played a crucial role in the elevation of House Redwyne to their current position.
Tragedy would strike once more though after a decade of relative calm when Daena Targaryen launched her brutal and destructive war for the Iron Throne. Lord Robert was nearing fifty and had long thought his days of commanding to be over. But when the King's call to arms came he knew that the royal fleet would call upon him once more even though he was no longer the realm's Master of Ships. And much as had been the case in his youth the now grizzled lord found himself unable to answer the call. So he set out to King's Landing with his fleet and his two brothers to prepare for what was sure to be a long and drawn out campaign. Though, not even he could have predicted the surprise fleet of 200 warships that sailed for the Blackwater while the Dragon Queen herself burned the west. Without aid from the Vale the Royal Fleet was incapable of mounting a winning effort. That, however, didn't mean the effort was in vain. While the Royal Fleet was ultimately defeated and forced into a retreat it was successful in inflicting large casualties to the invaders where, in reality, the battle should have been a route. Many of those accolades would once again find their way to Lord Robert's shoulders but the battle had a far larger effect on him. As the fleet attempted to regroup there were two ships that were missing. Both of his brothers' commands had sunk and none had seen them after. Robert was reminded of how quickly life could change once more just as he had been as a boy. Once more the seas took his family from him. Both Mace and Loras Redwyne perished that day and Robert's grief was insurmountable. He sailed his ship home while the rest of the surviving Redwyne fleet remained in service to the Crown. But Lord Robert himself had seen enough and would partake no more. He arrived on Dragonstone and hugged his wife and his children and squeezed them tight.
Robert had sworn on that day, when he returned, to never leave his family again. The crown had called him twice and he'd answered both times but now it was time for somebody else to answer the call. His place was here, with his family. At least that is what he tried to tell himself. But when the crown called once more in late 382 AC Lord Robert once again answered. The position of Master of Ships was open once more and with a young Queen now at the helm a veteran and senior member of the court was desired to fill the post. Of course, with so many others dead following the war there were not many choices. So once more, Lord Robert Redwyne would set out to depart Dragonstone aboard his trusty ship and sail for King's Landing. Once more fulfilling that childhood dream that had long since become a nightmare. All in service of the realm.

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2020.09.16 16:08 Nestledrink GeForce RTX 3080 Review Megathread

GeForce RTX 3080 Review Megathread

GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition reviews are up.

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Reminder: Do NOT buy from 3rd Party Marketplace Seller on Ebay/Amazon/Newegg (unless you want to pay more). Assume all the 3rd party sellers are scalping. If it's not being sold by the actual retailer (e.g. Amazon selling on Amazon.com or Newegg selling on Newegg.com) then you should treat the product as sold out and wait.

Below is the compilation of all the reviews that have been posted so far. I will be updating this continuously throughout the day with the conclusion of each publications and any new review links. This will be sorted alphabetically.

Written Articles

Anandtech - No Anandtech review today. Will be added next week

Arstechnica

Instead, I'm confident in saying that the $699 RTX 3080 has handily dethroned the GTX 1080 Ti as the market's best expensive-but-attainable GPU. Its specific performance profile, achieved with serious hunger (320W) and a large-but-not-epic pool of RAM (10GB, albeit in the efficient GDDR6X profile), will let you rip and tear in 4K resolutions and in high-performing VR scenarios without requiring buy-in from game developers to toggle Nvidia's proprietary systems.
Simultaneously, this card's advances on the ray-tracing front make that realm's "medium" settings a no-brainer in applicable software, even without having to toggle Nvidia's DLSS upscaling system. So far, we haven't seen any software take advantage of Nvidia's newly advertised "RTX I/O" system, which is meant to more efficiently funnel 3D assets through the GPU without wasting CPU cycles. It's a proprietary Nvidia tech, limited only to its newest GPUs, so I'm not holding my breath expecting RTX I/O to make industry-wide waves in the immediate future.
But much of that proprietary "RTX" stuff from Turing, particularly ray tracing, will soon become an industry-wide standard, thanks to factors like the upcoming Windows 10 standard of DirectX 12 Ultimate and AMD's own aggressive entry into ray tracing (fueled in part by both major next-gen consoles this holiday season). What I once called the "RTX lottery ticket" is now a given, and the RTX 3080 is proof that you can have your 60fps-at-4K cake and eat your ray traced frosting, too.
Verdict: If you're itching to build a desktop PC in the $1,500-and-up range, you can finally expect proper bang for your $699 GPU buck. Buy.

Babeltechreviews

We are impressed with the Founders Edition of the RTX 3080 which has exceptional performance at Ultra 4K and at 2560×1440. For now, it stands alone as the fastest video card in the world and it has launched at $699 – the same price the RTX 2080 SUPER FE launched at, and $100 less expensive than the RTX 2080 at launch – and much less expensive compared to the $1199 RTX 2080 Ti FE which launched two years ago.
The Founders Edition of the RTX 3080 is well-built, solid, and good-looking, and it stays cool and quiet even when overclocked. The only nitpicks we have are that the shipping/display box is almost impossible to open after the card is removed, and that the 12-pin adapter cable is bulky and it looks out of place on such a great-looking card. Fortunately, EVGA has stepped up with a much less bulky cable that will aid meticulous builders for cable management.
If you currently game on an GTX 1080 Ti, you will do yourself a big favor by upgrading to a RTX 3080. For the same launch price, the RTX 3080 will give much better visuals for ray tracing, much higher overall performance, and DLSS 2.0 will allow for better performance for the games that use it. The RTX 3080 is a true 4K/60 FPS video card for most modern games. It well deserves BabelTechReviews Editor’s Choice Award.

Digital Foundry Article

Digital Foundry Video

The RTX 3080 is an important product. For two years now, the pinnacle of PC graphics technology has been defined by the Turing-based RTX 2080 Ti. It's fast, very fast. It's so fast in fact, that there's a strong argument that any resolutions below ultra HD or high resolution ultrawide won't see the GPU horsepower fully utilised on anything other than the fastest gaming CPU. And yet the RTX 3080 takes everything to the next level - you're looking at an average range of 65 to 80 per cent more performance up against 2080, and around 24 to 37 per cent more grunt than 2080 Ti. With ray tracing factored into the equation, the boosts can be even more significant.
And in a world where the console manufacturers have been bashful about telling us how much the next generation is actually going to cost, Nvidia coming straight out of the gate with $699/£650 pricing for a product so powerful is a massive statement - and delivering an upcoming RTX 3070 with 2080 Ti-level performance at Series X money may also give many pause: should they buy a new console or upgrade the PC they may already own?
There's a lot more to the RTX offering we've not looked at in this review either - the firm's commitment to streamers and broadcasting with bespoke tools is significant. We use the RTX voice tool all of the time to provide cleaner voiceovers in our video work, but it's clear that Nvidia is looking to push its AI hardware to deliver much more functionality both inside and outside of gaming. Software is often a value-added extra we don't consider, but there's a lot of interesting work happening here. My only criticism? Extra features are very, very welcome but the Nvidia GPU control panel is well past its sell-by date and really needs a fresh lick of paint and a ginormous speed-up.
It's unlikely that paying a bit more for electricity is likely to worry the kind of user willing to spend so much on a graphics card - and the 220W TDP for the upcoming RTX 3070 suggests that Nvidia knows that, throwing everything it possibly can at the more premium 3080 and 3090 where the kind of user likely to buy in at this level won't mind the 'performance at all costs' approach to the products. Certainly, I really enjoy using this card - I like using RTX 2080 Ti for 4K gaming and the RTX 3080 doesn't feel like an iterative upgrade. I can do more with it, I can feel the difference. Side-by-side with RTX 2080, it's almost a night and day improvement in many regards. But with that said, I still think the 20-series cards have much to offer: they don't become obsolete overnight, they're still strong performers and they have the complete next-gen feature set. And I suspect the real audience for this card lies elsewhere: there's still a lot of folks out there with a 10-series Pascal cards and as the graphs across these pages demonstrate, those products are starting to show their age - and in that respect, the new Ampere line looks like a highly compelling upgrade.

Guru3D

We feel it is safe to say that it's been worth the wait. Ampere as an architecture is nothing short of impressive. Combined with hyper-fast GDDR6X memory and a radical new cooling design, a new trend is set, as this product is seriously competing with the board partner cards. I mean, all registers are green, including rendering performance, cooling, and acoustic performance as well as the simple yet so crucial aesthetic feel. I do worry a little about the open fin structure versus dust. Next to that, you are going to yearn for a dedicated 12-pin power connector leading from the PSU and there is some coil whine going on. Of course, overall power consumption has increased really significantly. How important these things are to you, is for you to decide. The flipside of the coin is that you'll receive a product that will be dominant in that Ultra HD space. Your games average out anywhere from 60 to 100+ FPS, well, aside from Flight Simulator 2020 :)
Dropping down in resolutions does create other challenges; you'll be far less GPU bound, but then again, we do not expect you to purchase a GeForce RTX and play games at 1920x1080. Arbitrarily speaking, starting at a monitor resolution of 2560x1440, that's the domain where the GeForce RTX 3080 will start to shine. The raw Shading/rasterizer (read: regular rendered games) performance is staggering as this many Shader cores make a difference. The new generational architecture tweaks for ray-tracing and Tensor also is significant. Coming from the RTX 2080, the RTX 3080 exhibited a roughly 85% performance increase and that is going to bring Hybrid Ray-tracing tow higher resolutions. DX-R will remain to be massively demanding, of course, but when you can play Battlefield V in ultra HD with ray-tracing and DLSS enabled at over 70 FPS, well hey, I'm cool with that. Also, CUDA compute performance in Blender and V-Ray, OMG! The asking price for all this render performance is $699 USD, and that is the biggest GPU bottleneck for most people, especially with the upcoming consoles in the vicinity. However, there always has been a significant distinction between PC and console games; I suspect that will not be any different this time around. We bow to the Ampere architecture as it is impressive as, for those willing to spend the money on it, it's wholeheartedly recommended and eas an easy top pick.

Hexus

Nvidia latest Ampere architecture arrives in consumer graphics card space as the GeForce RTX 30-series GPUs. Initially comprised the RTX 3070, RTX 3080 and RTX 3090, debuting at different times over the course of the next month, they are primed to set new benchmark standards at the premium end of the market.
The largest, most powerful Ampere die is known as GA102, and it goes much bigger on floating-point cores yet ironically reduces the relative amount of silicon devoted to RT and Tensor cores when they've been firmly in the marketing headlights since being amalgamated into last-gen Turing two years ago.
Floating-point muscle is supported by oodles of bandwidth and general efficiencies across the chip. GA102 is a veritable monster with capability of pushing close to 40 TFLOPS of compute performance in unbridled form, clearly hinting at its datacentre provenance, from which Nvidia moulds gaming graphics.
GeForce RTX 3080 takes GA102 as its performance base but retains approximately 85 percent of its throughput potential through the use of 68 out of a possible 84 SMs. The backend, meanwhile, sacrifices width and a modicum of speed compared to a full-fat layout, but be in no doubt, RTX 3080 is a supremely fast card in its own right.
Fast enough, actually, to smash the last-gen GeForce RTX 2080 Super with which, for now, it shares a $699/£649 price tag. It's typically over 50 percent speedier, rising to 80 percent in a best-case scenario, and there's enough silicon artillery to roundly defeat the $1,199 RTX 2080 Ti in every game. RTX 3080 heralds a step-change in performance at the $699 price point.
More pragmatically, RTX 3080 delivers on the promise of 4K gaming at a fluid 60fps and, equally important for Nvidia's ambitions, for the first time, the ability to render at the same level with raytracing and DLSS turned on. That's a big deal.
The new GPU's frequency/voltage sweetspot occurs at a higher wattage than we're accustomed to in the consumer space, most likely resulting from using 8nm Samsung instead of 7nm TSMC. 320W requires a new FE cooler - and pretty it is - and again speaks to the high-performance datacentre characteristics baked into Ampere. The wattage isn't a problem for any premium gaming PC, of course, but it's worth knowing that availing oneself of excellent performance requires extra wick. Even so, RTX 3080 tops the bang4buck and energy efficiency charts.
There is plenty to like here. GeForce RTX 3080 represents true 4K60 max-your-settings gameplay at an unexpectedly low $699. It's hard to argue against performance or value, so we won't. All that's left to say is that if you want the fastest GPU money can currently buy, at least for the next week, GeForce RTX 3080 provides it with alarmingly good value.

Hot Hardware

Summarizing the new GeForce RTX 3080's performance is as simple as could be -- it is the fastest GPU we have tested to date, across the board, period. Regardless of the game, application, or benchmark we used, the GeForce RTX 3080 put up the best scores of the bunch, often more than doubling the performance of AMD's current flagship Radeon RX 5700 XT. Despite its much lower introductory price, the GeForce RTX 3080 even skunked the Titan RTX and GeForce RTX 2080 Ti by relatively large margins. The bottom line is, NVIDIA's got an absolutely stellar-performing GPU on its hands, and the GeForce RTX 3080 isn't even the best Ampere has to offer -- the upcoming GeForce RTX 3090 is bigger and burlier across the board.
We have been hearing rumblings of Ampere's monster performance for months. Even before CES, a couple of board partners hinted that NVIDIA had lofty goals for Ampere and the company has delivered in spades. The GeForce RTX 3080 is a beast. We suspect peak power consumption is going to be a concern for some users, but in practice, for us at least, it is a non-issue. Thanks to the newly engineered cooling solution, the GeForce RTX 3080 runs cool and quiet in real-world conditions. Sure, your rig might put out a bit more heat, but we suspect most users aren't going to care with a GPU that performs as well as the RTX 3080 does.
Of course, we have yet to see what the GeForce RTX 3090 can do and AMD has announced that is RDNA2-based Radeon RX 6000 series will be unveiled in a few weeks. Looking back through our numbers, "Big Navi" will have to offer more than 2X the performance of a Radeon RX 5700 XT to be in the same class as the GeForce RTX 3080. Could AMD do it? Sure, it's possible. But based on the company's somewhat conservative decisions of the last few generations, we don't think its targets are quite that aggressive. We'll know for sure soon enough though.
Today, the spotlight shines on NVIDIA. The GeForce RTX 3080 is nothing short of impressive. At its expected $700-ish price point (depending on the model), there is nothing that can come even close to touching it. The new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 is an easy Editor's Choice. If you're buying a new GPU in its price range, there is no other choice currently.

Igor's Lab

It should not be an advertising sales event, but a test that is as objective and fair as possible, even if the results are still so solid that you have to fight a bit with the “want to have” factor in the gaming sector. Especially at higher resolutions, this card is a real board, because even if the lead over the GeForce RTX 2080 Super doesn’t always turn out to be in high double digits, it’s always enough to virtually reach the next quality level in playability. Right stop of many quality controllers included. Particularly if the games of the GeForce RTX 3080 and the new architecture lie, are also sometimes up to 80% increase compared to the RTX 2080 super in it and a RTX 2080 Ti is beaten with almost 40%. This too must be noted if one wants to be fair. But it is only the beginning and not generally enforceable with the game engines, unfortunately.
It is also exactly the increase, because you can, for example. has always demanded when playing in Ultra-HD. Here you go, here’s an offer for it. The fact that the RAM with its 10 GB could become scarce from time to time, at the latest in Ultra-HD, is due to the design by NVIDIA and also by many game manufacturers, who fill up with data exactly what can be filled up. Which of course would not be a blanket apology and thus the only point of criticism. It should have been doubled by now, price point or no price point.

KitGuru Article

KitGuru Video

There’s no two ways about it. Nvidia’s RTX 3080 is a stunning return to form for the manufacturer, delivering hugely impressive gen-on-gen gains compared to the RTX 20-series that debuted two years ago. The 3080 is the fastest graphics card we have ever tested (though the RTX 3090 will have something to say about that next week), and it is delivered at almost half the price of last generation’s flagship, the RTX 2080 Ti.
The most disappointing aspect of the RTX 20-series was its marginal improvements in terms of traditional raster performance. Ray tracing aside, unless you were willing to pay the big bucks for the 2080 Ti, we didn’t get any GPUs that delivered a big generational jump in performance. It seems Nvidia took that disappointment as a challenge; with the RTX 3080, Nvidia has delivered a huge jump forward.
That’s because, on average, the RTX 3080 improves on the RTX 2080 by 68% at 4K resolution, while it’s also 31% faster than the RTX 2080 Ti and 58% faster than the 2080 Super. Anyone who held onto a GTX 1080 Ti will also see performance increases to the tune of 90%, again at 4K. Across the aisle, AMD is now in real need of Big Navi to deliver the goods when it arrives on October 28, as the 3080 crushes the Radeon VII by 86% and it’s over twice as fast as the RX 5700 XT, again at 4K.
The margins of victory for the RTX 3080 do change as we step down in resolution – it’s 31% faster than a 2080 Ti at 4K, 25% faster at 1440p and 18% faster at 1080p. The latter resolution proved a significant problem on a number of occasions due to CPU bottlenecks. Even with an i9-10900K running at 5.1GHz, the CPU was holding the 3080 back by a significant margin in at least 5 of the 11 titles we tested today. Even where the bottlenecks weren’t as significant, relative gains versus the 2080 Ti were lower at 1080p than 1440p or 4K, in every single game we tested. Gamers looking to buy this GPU will certainly get the most out of it at 4K, though a 55% increase in performance over the RTX 2080 at 1440p shows high refresh rate WQHD users will also get their money’s worth.
However you slice it, RTX 3080 is a huge step forward from Turing. Of course, it is easy to be cynical and point out the fact that Turing hardly improved on Pascal in terms of traditional raster performance at this price point, and that does make Ampere look more attractive than it should. There may be an element of truth there, but even the gains versus Pascal look impressive considering the GTX 1080 Ti came out three and a half years ago. The 3080 is 90% faster on average at 4K, but over 120% faster in certain titles like Control and The Division 2.
It’s also good to see RTX performance taking a significant stride forward. The improvements to the RT cores and overall architecture mean relative performance with RT on scales slightly better than with it off – gains of around 35-40% compared to the 2080 Ti were typical in our testing. Of course, enabling the technology still results in a significant hit to performance, but as 3080 has pushed things so far forward, the end result isn’t nearly as bad as it was with Turing. In Shadow of the Tomb Raider, for instance, we saw average frame rates hitting nearly 90FPS at 1440p with RTX set to Ultra, while Metro Exodus was averaging over 110FPS at the same resolution, again with RTX set to Ultra.

OC3D

The performance of Nvidia's RTX 3080 is unquestionably impressive. Even making allowances for the fact that a few of our games get a bit grumpy about both ray tracing and DLSS in various combinations, preferring an everything on or everything off approach (it is true for pre-DLSS 2.0 titles). Another factor that's worth considering is that Nvidia's current pre-release drivers are missing some elements that allow us to overclock things properly. Regardless, the amount of performance available from the card in a simple plug-and-go form is so great that anyone who has recently purchased any of the RTX 2xxx cards will be left green with envy.
We all knew that the RTX 2080 set were supremely good, but they were always stupidly expensive. Here you have a card which is, right now, the fastest card on the planet and yet is so affordable that you could grab a 2TB M.2 NVMe drive and still save on the price of an RTX 2080 Ti. Or, if you're running an X570 system like we are, it is enough of a saving that if you'd budgeted for a Ryzen 3 3300X and RTX 2080 Ti setup you could upgrade that CPU to a Ryzen 9 3950X without needing to spend any extra money. That's bananas.
DLSS is massively impressive too. Just cast your eye across our DLSS off and DLSS on results, it's clear that you can gain massive FPS boosts yet without compromising image quality. If like us, you're old enough to remember the early days of 3D games, you'll know that lowering your game resolution is the easiest way to improve FPS, but turning everything blurry in the process. DLSS 2.0 gives you higher frame rates and higher image quality. It's witchcraft.
Thus, as we said at the start, the RTX 3080 FE is RTX 2080 Ti besting performance for the price of an RTX 2080 Super, and why you haven't already left to buy one, we don't know. You owe it to yourself. If the graphics card is outside of your price range, we know for a fact that cheaper Ampere cards are on the horizon.

PC Perspective

NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition is the fastest graphics card I’ve ever tested, and it’s an amazing product for the money. Now, actually buying one for $699 might require devine intervention, but we don’t really know until they go on sale.
We know demand will be there because performance is just so damn impressive with this card. No, the leap in performance isn’t 2x over the RTX 2080 outside of certain testing scenarios, but it’s always significant – often 60% or greater. The RTX 2080 was soundly beaten in these benchmarks.
I’ll be honest here. The RTX 2080 was a letdown. The Turing launch left a lot of gaming frustrated, and Pascal continued to be the architecture of choice for most GeForce gamers. RTX made for an awesome demo, but outside of a few titles that was about it. DLSS took time to improve, and without it full native rendering with real-time ray tracing was too expensive from a performance standpoint.
I feel like the ray tracing story has changed, if the RTX 3080 is any indication. Suddenly I’m really interested in games that use more RTX features, and excited about the prospect of the RTX 3090’s performance in this department. Frame rates – even without DLSS – are suddenly playable even at very high settings, and the visuals in some of the games and demos are stunning.
With the RTX 3080 we finally have a graphics card that redefines the $699 performance level in a way that eclipses even the GTX 1080 Ti. It’s an exciting time to be an enthusiast, and I can’t wait to get my hands on the RTX 3070 – and (fingers crossed) the RTX 3090 as well.

PC World

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang said that Ampere is GeForce’s greatest generational leap ever, and he wasn’t kidding. Remember being blown away when the GTX 1080 was 60 to 70 percent faster than the GTX 980, even with its slightly higher price? The GeForce RTX 3080 spits out frames up to 80 percent faster in several games, and 60 percent higher in the others. It’s roughly 30 percent faster than the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, the $1,200 previous-gen flagship, and a ridonkulous 100 to 160 percent faster than the older GeForce GTX 1080. All at the exact same $700 price tag as the RTX 2080.
The promises were true. This thing is an absolute monster. Sometimes it’s faster at 4K than the RTX 2080 is at 1440p. Ludicrous.
There are no games where the GeForce RTX 3080 fails to clear a 60-frames-per-second average at 4K resolution with all possible visuals effects turned on. The exception is the ridiculously strenuous Total War: Troy, which averages 56 fps (and feels just fine at even lower speeds as a strategy game). Most games go significantly faster than that. Other than Troy, again, no games fall below 100 fps at 1440p resolution with everything maxed out. Again, Total War again falls just shy, at 98 fps, and again, most games go significantly faster than that. If you’re fine bumping graphics down to high, games fly along even faster in our off-the-cuff tests. No graphics card has come close to this level of performance before.
The “worst” (but still massive) results come in CPU-bound or older DX11 titles. The Ampere architecture screams when unleashed on properly optimized games that were built for DirectX 12 or Vulkan. More and more of those are being published these days, and all ray-traced games require DX12. The impact of ray tracing and DLSS doesn’t appear to be lessened despite the next-gen RT and tensor cores, but the RTX 3080 is so fast, it doesn’t matter. You can play ray traced games at 1440p, and even 4K now.

TechGage

As we saw across most of these results, the performance gains seen with the new generation Ampere GeForces is simply incredible. There’s no other way to say it. The strong performance seen because of the RT cores makes AMD’s next move an important one. We’ve already known for ages that the new consoles all use ray tracing, and those are of course built with AMD Radeon GPUs. How that will all carry over to the desktop, we’re not sure, but we will gain a better understanding in late October when AMD makes its RDNA2 “Big Navi” announcement.
Even in the most modest of cases, the RTX 3080 outperformed the last-gen TITAN RTX by around 10%, and that’s not even the comparison card we should be choosing. That wouldn’t even be the 2080 Ti, which NVIDIA has said the RTX 3080 would easily beat out. The best comparison would be the 2080 SUPER, which also cost $699 ahead of this launch. Compared to that card, the RTX 3080 simply slays. We do not see gains like these come around to GPUs all too often.
As mentioned before, the only limitation we can think of with this card on the creator side is the 10GB frame buffer, but we don’t see that being a common complaint anytime soon. For those with the biggest needs, the 24GB frame buffer on the RTX 3090 should solve your quandary. Hopefully NVIDIA has other SKUs planned that will help fill that 10GB~24GB void (of course it does).
While this article took care of the ProViz aspect of the new GeForce RTX 3080, a forthcoming article will take an in-depth look at gaming, which will include a number of new RTX-infused titles. Stay tuned.

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Averaged over our whole benchmarking suite, at 4K resolution, the GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition is 66% faster than the RTX 2080 that it replaces (both launched at $699). NVIDIA's new card even beats last generation's flagship the RTX 2080 Ti, by a whopping 31%! AMD's Radeon RX 5700 XT is half as fast as the RTX 3080. Yup, 3080 is +100% 5700 XT performance—AMD better get things right with RDNA2. If you've held out on a GTX 1080 Ti until now, congrats, now is the right time to upgrade. RTX 3080 Ti will double your FPS, and give you all the latest techs and features like raytracing and DLSS.
When looking at lower resolutions, the lead of the RTX 3080 shrinks considerably, +51% over RTX 2080 at 1440p, +35% at 1080p. The reason is that with so much GPU horsepower, games are becoming increasingly CPU limited. A posterchild for that is Anno 1800—at lower resolution all cards are bunched up against an invisible performance wall, around 68 FPS in this case, that's the CPU limit. We're already on a very fast CPU, Ryzen won't run any faster either. We've tested this extensively in our RTX 3080: 10900K vs 3900XT review that just went up, too. Back to Anno 1800, 1080p is totally CPU limited on all high-end cards, after switching to 1440p, most comparison cards fall back in FPS, because their GPU isn't fast enough, so they become GPU limited. The only exception are RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 3080, which both achieve 67 FPS at 1440p—still CPU limited. When switching to 4K, RTX 2080 Ti falls back to 46 FPS, RTX 3080 still seems quite CPU limited at 63 FPS. While unfortunate, CPU limits are a reality of gaming—RTX 3080 will not magically give you 360 FPS in all games—no graphics card can. CPU power, game engines and developers have to catch up with the new performance first.
GeForce RTX 3080 is perfect for 4K gaming. It's able to exceed 60 FPS in nearly all titles, the only exception in our test suite is Control, which runs at 48 FPS. NVIDIA does have one ace up their sleeve: DLSS, which renders the game at lower resolution and upscales the frame to your native monitor resolution. While traditional upscaling comes with blurriness and artifacts, NVIDIA DLSS uses AI to improve the scaling. The algorithm has improved over the years, but the basic concept remains. Machine learning is used to train a model to excel at upscaling of game content. While only few games support DLSS at this time, the numbers are growing quickly.
NVIDIA has always been criticized for high pricing in the past, it seems they listened to feedback. The RTX 3080 Founders Edition retails at $699, which an extremely competitive price. Remember, RTX 3080 is twice as fast as RX 5700 XT ($370), 31% faster than RTX 2080 Ti ($1000+). It seems that NVIDIA is concerned mostly with the new consoles, which will bring high-fidelity gaming to the masses at prices around $500. Charging $1000 for a graphics card will be tough sell for many, when they can have a whole gaming console for $500. At the RTX 3080's price point there really is no alternative, maybe a used RTX 2080 Ti at bargain prices? Not sure, definitely nothing that AMD offers at this time. We are working on several reviews of RTX 3080 custom-designs from board partners, the reviews will be up very soon. It will be interesting to see if their cards will be able to match or exceed the RTX 3080 Founders Edition. NVIDIA set the bar very high.

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Compared to the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti at 1440p the GeForce RTX 3080 FE averages an increase in performance of 20% over the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FE. The Far Cry 5 and FS 2020 numbers bring that average down a lot, if we remove those two then the average is 24%. At 4K the GeForce RTX 3080 FE averages 25% faster than the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FE. The GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FE video card was a $1200 video card, now for $500 less at $699 you can have performance that is 20-25% faster than the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FE, for less money. That is advancement, again, all without including Ray Tracing or DLSS into the mix, pure rasterization.
Point being? Rasterization Performance improvement is there on the GeForce RTX 3080 FE, the facts speak the truth.
As you can see, with Ray Tracing Enabled the performance advantages with GeForce RTX 3080 FE are even higher than without Ray Tracing. The average performance increase at 1440p compared to the RTX 2080 FE is 77%. The average performance increase at 4K compared to the RTX 2080 FE is 84%. The GeForce RTX 3080 FE has a very large leap over the GeForce RTX 2080 FE with Ray Tracing turned on. Compared to the RTX 2080 Ti FE the RTX 3080 FE at 1440p averages 33% faster and at 4K it is 32% faster. This proves that Ray Tracing performance is vastly improved.
At the end of the day, the NVIDIA Ampere architecture is superior to last generation’s Pascal architecture. The node has improved from the last generation, and the architecture is now keyed more specifically to floating-point performance, Ray Tracing performance, and machine learning/AI performance via Tensor Cores. The architecture also supports some interesting new technologies we are looking forward to such as RTX I/O. It has future bandwidth support in mind with PCI-Express 4.0.
Rasterization, Ray Tracing, and Machine Learning are all aspects of modern-day GPUs, and they all matter moving forward for gaming. In traditional gaming (rasterized performance) the GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition gives us a big upgrade in performance compared to the GeForce RTX 2080 Founders Edition it is replacing. We see benefits depend on the game, with some as high as 80+% and most averaging around 50-60% advantage, depending on the resolution. In addition, the GeForce RTX 3080 FE also provides 20-25% faster performance than the previous fastest video card, the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti. When you apply Ray Tracing, the advantages in performance grow even more. Apply DLSS on top of that and Ray Tracing is playable in games at 4K now, and most definitely 1440p.
At $699 the GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition video card offers gamers a lot of gaming performance and features that will improve the gameplay experience. At the end of the day the gameplay experience is most important, and the GeForce RTX 3080 FE has the ability to transform that gameplay experience with features like Ray Tracing and DLSS. With the performance it brings, those features are playable. It also offers the fastest performance around, and even provides better performance than the fastest video card of the last generation. Whether you play games without Ray Tracing and DLSS, or you play games with, this video card will provide the best gameplay experience.

Tomshardware

The GeForce RTX 3080 is here, right now, and priced pretty reasonably considering the performance it offers. Last month, you could have spent $2,500 on dual RTX 2080 Ti cards hooked up via NVLink, only to find that multi-GPU support in games is largely dead, particularly in new releases. Now, for $700, you get 30% better performance than the outgoing RTX 2080 Ti and pocket $500 in savings. That's assuming you can find an RTX 3080 in stock.
Let's also be clear that the RTX 3080 is primarily for high-resolution gaming. Yes, you can run 1440p with RTX effects, and it will be a good fit. It's a better fit for 4K gaming. Don't bother with it if you're using a 1080p display, as you could get nearly the same level of performance with a lesser GPU. Which brings us to the next option: Wait for the RTX 3070 or RX 6800 XT (whatever AMD's $400-$500 option ends up being called).
The RTX 3070 should still be plenty fast for 1440p gaming, and more than fast enough for 1080p — just like the RTX 2080 Ti. Nvidia says it will perform "better than the 2080 Ti," though we take that marketing-speak with a scoop of salt. Out of all the benchmarks we ran, there was only one (Doom Eternal) where the 3080 actually doubled the 2080's performance.
Anyway, saving $200 and buying a 3070 could make a lot of sense. It's interesting to note that the RTX 3070 is a substantial step down from the RTX 3080, however. The 3080 has 48% more GPU, RT, and Tensor cores, it has 20% more memory, and the memory is clocked 36% higher. That's a big enough gap that we could see an RTX 3070 Ti down the road, but at what price? Alternatively, wait and see what AMD's Navi 2x / RX 6000 GPUs can do, which we'll hear about more on October 28.
The bottom line is that the RTX 3080 is the new high-end gaming champion, delivering truly next-gen performance without a massive increase in price. If you've been sitting on a GTX 1080 Ti or lower, waiting for a good time to upgrade, that time has arrived. The only remaining question is just how competitive AMD's RX 6000, aka Big Navi, will be. Even with 80 CUs, on paper, it looks like Nvidia's RTX 3080 may trump the top Navi 2x cards, thanks to GDDR6X and the doubling down on FP32 capability. AMD might offer 16GB of memory, but it's probably going to be paired with a 256-bit bus and clocked quite a bit lower than 19 Gbps, which may limit performance.

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2020.09.16 00:24 yandereapologist [They Might Be Giants fandom] Vintage drama: The John Henry Discourse

Reposting because I fucked up the title format. Oops!
This is my first post here, as a warning, so I apologize if it’s not good! I’d also like to note that I was not around personally for any of this drama (I was a literal toddler at the time), and that there aren’t a ton of concrete sources other than hearsay and secondhand accounts. But it’s still a fun little story of fan entitlement, and a cursory search of this subreddit didn’t turn up any posts on it, so I thought it’d be a good first writeup. This is all to say that if I’m mistaken about any of this or if I formatted badly or used the wrong flair, PLEASE feel free to correct me!
Who’s There May Be Giants?? They Might Be Giants (commonly abbreviated to TMBG) are a Brooklyn-based alternative rock band, formed in 1982 by John Linnell and John Flansburgh, who split songwriting and vocal duties pretty evenly between each other. (Yes, they’re both named John. In fact, it’s very common for fans to refer to them as simply The Johns, and usually when they’re referred to individually, people tend to use their initials or surnames, although John Flansburgh is also commonly nicknamed Flans or Flansy.) You have probably heard their music even if you’ve never heard of the band themselves—they’re known for contributing a lot of music, including the theme song, to Malcolm In The Middle, and often collaborated with the Brothers Chaps of Homestar Runner fame in the mid-aughts, the latter being how I got into them as a preteen. That’s only scratching the surface of their contributions, but I digress. They’re also absurdly prolific, with 22 studio albums (officially, the album vs. compilation discourse is a thing, but I’ll use the official number for simplicity’s sake) and a fuckton of EPs, compilations, live albums, and unreleased material.
They’re a weird band, and frankly calling them an alternative rock band is reductive. They’re known for unusual instrumentation (Linnell plays the accordion, among many other things), bizarre lyrics with very dark undertones, and generally being a couple of weird nerds who make weird nerd music. Obviously I say this with the utmost fondness, and trust me, it’s gonna be relevant.
Okay but explain the drama pls? I’m getting to it, hold your horses.
The band started life as a duo with a drum machine (which will be very important later), and in 1986 they released their self-titled debut album on an indie label (Bar None), which fans almost exclusively refer to as The Pink Album due to the pink sky on the cover art and to avoid obvious confusion. They developed a bit of a cult following, and after their 1988 sophomore effort Lincoln, they were signed to a major label—Elektra Records. Their third album, 1990’s Flood, became utterly iconic, and is known as something of a gateway drug to the band, due to it achieving the most mainstream success of any of their releases. To this day, it remains quite probably their best-known album, with songs such as Birdhouse In Your Soul, Particle Man, and Istanbul (Not Constantinople) remaining huge fan favorites.
Now, it’s worth noting that they’ve never had a huge fanbase—their shows are generally held at comparatively small venues, for instance. They’re kind of the band equivalent of a cult classic film, with a relatively small but deeply devoted fandom. This helps foster a very genuine sense of community, in my experience, and the fandom actually very rarely deals with much in terms of serious drama; most of the drama I’ve witnessed or been involved in has been dumb interpersonal bullshit with nothing to do with TMBG as a band. But in 1994, the Johns made a decision that would have quite the impact.
SO WHAT WAS THE DECISION OP?? As I mentioned previously, TMBG was originally just the Johns and a drum machine. This honestly limited their sound somewhat, and although their first four albums are still excellent in their own right, I personally don’t think they hold up quite as well as later releases.
So for their fifth album, they got a backing band...and (some) fans were pissed. It’s even been said that disgruntled fans staged full-on boycotts of their shows, saying that it “wasn’t the real TMBG.” (Honestly, the more I think about that, the dumber it is to me...was the fucking drum machine really a more important member of the band than the Johns themselves, y’all? Seriously??) There is some ambiguity as to whether this move was due to label pressure (Elektra was undeniably screwing them over in a lot of ways, so there’s some weight to this) or whether the Johns simply decided they’d be able to expand their sound better with actual humans, and I personally suspect it was a combination of both, but that’s not that relevant to the drama proper.
This was not really helped by the album itself. John Henry—named, of course, for the old man vs. machine legend, obviously they knew exactly what they were doing there—was released in 1994 to very mixed reception. Many fans viewed the sound as “too mainstream” (a bit odd considering that the first track opens with a fucking accordion solo and it’s still weird as shit overall, but whatever), and there seems to have been some real concern amongst purists that the band was losing their touch.
(Now, my personal opinion? I adore John Henry. It is quite literally my favorite album ever, by any band. As such, I am fully aware that I’m juuuuuust a tad biased. But yeah.)
Okay so what happened then? Funnily enough, despite it being possibly the biggest controversy of their nearly four-decade career to date, almost nothing permanent came of the backlash.
To this day, TMBG is a five-man band, and while there were some lineup changes in the past, the backing band has remained steady since 2004, with the Johns being accompanied by guitarist Dan Miller, bassist Danny Weinkauf, and drummer Marty Beller. Notably, the vast majority of fans have come to terms with the fact that they haven’t been a duo for over two and a half decades now, and the backing band members have plenty of fans of their own. You will sometimes see people continuing to insist that their duo era was better, but this contingent definitely seems to be a minority at this point...which, given that it’s been TWENTY-SIX FUCKING YEARS, is probably reasonable.
The one weird aftereffect of this, however, is that while the fandom has almost unanimously embraced the full band, John Henry remains an extremely polarizing album, with fans squabbling over its quality to this very day. In fact, the most recent case of someone being banned from the main Facebook fan group (Miscellaneous T)—which, I should note, is a very rare occurrence—was due to him making really nasty personal attacks towards people who love the album. That being said, nowadays you’ll also find many fans, both those who were around at the time and those who weren’t, who will argue that it’s their best album or at least way up there, so at least its reputation has improved somewhat.
Additionally, the backlash seemed to somewhat sour the band’s own view of the album, although that might also be changing—while they have yet to do a full show dedicated to it like they have with many of their other albums, some songs from it, most notably Spy and No One Knows My Plan, have become concert staples.
So overall the effect was relatively minimal, save for the black mark on the album itself. The band has fully recovered from the controversy, as has most of the fandom, but it remains an odd point in TMBG history.
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